This is what civilized discourse between intelligent people looks like. I actually agree with most of what both debaters said. Maupin is more or less arguing for democratic socialism, and Invictus seems to be a moderately conservative, classical liberal. Neither one seems that radical to me.

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A debate on July 8th, 2017 between Augustus Sol Invictus and Caleb Maupin.

The debate was formally titled “The Revolutionary Left vs. The Revolutionary Right.”

The debate was sponsored by Students & Youth for a New America http://www.synamerica.com