By Center for a Stateless Society
Interview of Dr. Chris Hables Gray by Hank Pellissier
Should California, Scotland, Catalonia, Hawaii, Kurdistan and other regions secede for independence? Should today’s 193 nations divide into 1,600?
“Yes (sort of),” says Chris Hables Gray, a “pragmatic anarchist feminist revolutionary” who works as a lecturer of Interdisciplinary Studies at the University of California, Santa Cruz. He believes “devolution” of large nations into smaller regions will improve democratic decision-making.
Is ‘global devolution’ attracting adherents? A recent survey of futurists predicted “Abolition of Government” in the next 100 years, with an additional 15% foreseeing “Thousands of Small Fractured States.”
I interviewed Dr. Gray via email on this controversial topic. Our e-dialogue is below:
Hank Pellissier: Hi Chris – can you tell us a bit about your family background and upbringing?
Categories: Anarchism/Anti-State, Anti-Imperialism/Foreign Policy, Secession


















“When will anarchists realize that anarchism and progressive universalism are incompatible ideas?”
Probably shortly after those non-anarchist “anarchists” realize that “anarchism” actually means belief in “no government at all”, rather than mere opposition to the CURRENT government, and being in favor of a new, leftist big-government tyranny.