A great discussion between Gareth Porter and Tom Woods on Vietnam. Listen here. This is a must listen for anyone who is interested in how US imperialism actually works.
We’ve all heard the usual arguments: the U.S. government entered the Vietnam War because of the domino theory, or because of SEATO treaty obligations, or whatever. The recent Ken Burns PBS series on the war, for example, repeats many conventional arguments about the war.
Gareth Porter, on the other hand, joins me to discuss rather a different interpretation of the war. We cover the origins of the war, the nature of the war (were civilians deliberately targeted?), the Cambodian incursion, and a lot more.
Categories: Anti-Imperialism/Foreign Policy, Uncategorized
VIETNAM: WHY DID WE GO?
The Religious Beginnings of an Unholy War
The Shocking Story of the Roman Catholic “Church’s” Role in Starting the Vietnam War
By Avro Manhattan
Avro Manhattan was the world’s foremost authority on Roman Catholicism in politics. A resident of London, during World War II he operated a radio station called “Radio Freedom” broadcasting to occupied Europe.
He was the author of over 20 books including the best-seller The Vatican in World Politics, twice Book-of-the-Month and going through 57 editions. He was a Great Briton who risked his life daily to expose some of the darkest secrets of the Papacy. His books were #1 on the Forbidden Index for the past 50 years!!
With an immense collection of facts, photos, names and dates, Manhattan proves that the Vietnam War began as a religious conflict. He shows how America was manipulated into supporting Catholic oppression in Vietnam supposedly to fight communism.
• How religious pamphlets and radio broadcasts convinced one million Catholics to leave North Vietnam and live under Catholic rule in the South, overwhelming the Buddhists.
• How brutal persecution of Vietnamese Buddhists led to rioting and suicides by fire in the streets.
• Why the reports of what was really happening, written by American military and civil advisers, failed to reach the U.S. President.
• Why the project backfired, and as U.S. soldiers continued to die, the Vatican made a secret deal with Ho Chi Minh.
World War II, the Provisional Partition of Vietnam, and the Beginning of the Vietnamese Conflict.
Defeat of France and Japan – Vietnamese freedom-fighters declare the independence of Vietnam – A French Vietnamese puppet Prime Minister – Vietnamese Catholic Bishops appeal to the Vatican – The U.S. sends two warships to Saigon – Eisenhower helps the French in Vietnam – The Geneva Agreement – The l7th Parallel as “a provisional demarcation line” between North and South Vietnam – The Catholic lobby in the U.S. prevents a free election in Vietnam – Fear of a communist electoral take-over – President Eisenhower’s candid comment.
The Vatican-American Grand Alliance
Reasons Which Prompted the U.S. to Commit Herself to the War in Vietnam.
U.S. global policy following World War II – “Belligerent peace between the U.S. and Soviet Russia – Russian territorial expansionism after World War II – The U.S., Korea and the Cold War – The Vatican fear of world communism – The launching of political Catholicism against left-wing Europe – Religious mobilization against Marxism.
Fatimaization of the West
Religious and Ideological Preliminaries to the Vietnamese War.
The “Cold War” as a step to the “Hot War” – The U.S. and the Vatican make ready for “THE DAY” – The conditioning of Catholics for the oncoming “Hot War” – The message of the Virgin of Fatima – The conversion of Soviet Russia to the Catholic Church – The political implications of the cult of Fatima – The pope and the Virgin encourage Catholic volunteers for the Russian front.
The Pope’s Blessing for a Preventive War
The Secretary of the U.S. Navy, Secret Chamberlain of the Pope, Prepares for World War III.
The crown which weighs 1,200 grams of gold – Our Lady appears 15 times to a nun in the Philippines – The American Jesuit and the miraculous rose petals – The American Secretary of Defense jumps from a window on the l6th floor – Cardinal Spellman, Senator McCarthy and the American Secretary of the Navy – The Boston speech and the call for an American “preventive atomic war.”
The Miraculous Zig-Zagging Sun
Pope Pius XII Uses Religious Emotionalism as an Incitement to War.
The Virgin Mary visits the pope at the Vatican – Pius XII sees the sun “zig-zag” – The prodigy and its political meaning – One million pilgrims want the conversion of Russia – The first U.S. ambassador designate at the Vatican attends atomic exercises in Nevada – The U.S. ambassador to Moscow prepares for the invasion of Russia – Description of the forthcoming invasion of Soviet Russia by “Colliers ” – Making ready for the war of liberation The “Osservatore Romano” authenticates a miracle -The divine message to the Vicar of Christ.
The Pope’s “Preventive War” Miscarries.
U.S. Admirals, Generals and Diplomats Troop to the Vatican, President Truman’s Despairing Comments.
Papal warning of the “barbaric invasion” – The American leader of the “Free Russia Committee” – Dulles appeals for “an atomic striking force” – Eisenhower and 12 War Ministers – 100 Divisions on the “ready” – Saturation bombing experts see the pope – Russian agents steal “the cipher books” of the Vatican – Vatican diplomats and their secret spying via religion – The CIA – 100 million dollars to train spies and terrorists – Uniforms with regulation shoulder flashes marked USSR, instead of USA – Anybody here who can speak Russian? – The pope promises the liberation of’ Soviet Russia – Mystical conditioning of Catholicism for the outbreak of an atomic conflict – President Truman’s despairing comment.
The Men Behind the Vietnamese War.
Politicians, Generals, and Prelates and their Selection of the “Savior of Vietnam.”
The U.S. and 400,000 tons of war material – The fateful compromise of the 17th Parallel – Joint Vatican-U.S. Asian strategy – Catholic anti-communist crusade, McCarthy and Dulles – A cardinal as a linchpin between Washington and Rome – J.F. Kennedy and the Catholic lobby – U.S. preparation for intervention in Vietnam – The U.S. signs the fatal Vietnam agreement with France – The U.S. takes over military duties in South Vietnam – Foster-child of the Washington-Vatican sponsorship of South Vietnam – A would-be Catholic monk for an American grey eminence – Diem’s messiah-like complex – Diem becomes the premier of South Vietnam.
The Virgin Mary Goes South.
The Catholic Imponderable in the Escalation of the Vietnamese
Diem begins to create a Catholic administration – Diem refuses to hold elections as commanded by the Geneva Agreement – Diem’s refusal is supported by the U.S. and the Vatican – The plan for the mass dislocation from the North – The Catholics of North Vietnam, a state within a state – The communist leader of North Vietnam appoints a Catholic bishop to his government – Catholics want preferential treatment – Scheme for mass exodus of Northern Catholics toward South Vietnam – “Why has the Virgin Mary left the North?” – Catholic mass evacuation from North Vietnam – Results of the Catholic-CIA -Diem propaganda campaign – Catholic priests as Diem’s agents – A personal message to Eisenhower – The Seventh Fleet is sent to help Diem – Flight for Freedom with the American Navy – The pope’s representatives meet the first refugees – Humbug fanfare from Washington – The greatest phony refugee campaign promoted by the CIA and the Vatican.
The Pius-Spellman-Dulles Secret Scheme.
The U.S. Taxpayer Finances the Creation of a “Catholic Dictatorship” in South Vietnam.
The preparation for a massive Catholic community in South Vietnam – The setting up of a model Catholic state – The U.S. Catholic lobby begins to milk the U.S. taxpayer to help Diem – 40 million dollars to resettle the Catholics from North Vietnam – State officials and Catholic priests – U.S. aid, “to Catholics only” – Mobile Catholic unit to defend Christendom – A rural Catholic militia – Rapid Catholicization of South Vietnam – Catholics to the top – Become a Catholic for a quick promotion – Mishandling of U.S. aid to Vietnam – Buddhists persuaded to become Catholics – A top U.S. general becomes a Catholic – Discrimination against non-Catholics – The strengthening of Catholics from the communist North.
The Promotion of Catholic Totalitarianism.
“Individuals Considered Dangerous May Be Confined to a Concentration Camp.”
Discrimination against non-Catholic religions – Bribes, threats, agents and bitterness – Battles, riots and arrest of members of “hostile” religions – Further consolidation of the Catholic presence – Diem is given “dictatorial” power – Executive orders for concentration camps – American advisors support the new measures – Buddhists arrested without warrants – Interrogation, deportation, and torture of Buddhists – “Open” detention camps – Massacre and mass elimination of Buddhists – Buddhists become Catholic to save their lives.
Consolidation of Terrorism
Anti-Protestant Legislation – Detention, Arrests, Tortures and Executions.
Catholic totalitarianism for a model Catholic state – Diem and the pope’s teaching – The Church should NOT be separated from the state – Refusal of license to preach – A Catholic state cannot tolerate Protestant dissidents – Blue print for the elimination of Protestantism – Catholic education for a Catholic state – South Vietnam built upon the social doctrines of ten popes – “It is an error to believe the Catholic Church has not the power of using force” – The cult of personalism – Diem’s American “civil advisors” send gloomy reports to Washington – Altars and shrines for President Diem – Catholic “commando squads” of South Vietnam trained at Michigan University – Identification cards for dissident Catholics – Arrests and executions of Buddhist rebels – 24,000 wounded and 80,000 executed – 200, 000 Buddhists demonstrate in Saigon – Diem decides to eliminate the religion of the majority.
A CIA Spy Plane Cancels a Summit Meeting
The Cardinal Spellman War Replaces the “Preventive War” Planned by the Dulles Brothers and Pope Pius XII.
The two partners and their global objectives – Soviet Russia invades Hungary – Impending outbreak of World War III – The true foreign policy makers of the U.S. – The CIA promotion of American foreign policies – Collapse of the American-Russian summit meeting – The CIA and the spy plane – On the brink of atomic warfare “three times” – The U.S. threatens to use atomic weapons – The Church prays for “the liberation” – The “third” secret of the Virgin of Fatima – The Pope faints with “horror” – He calls for a war “of effective self-defense” – Communist expansion in Europe and Southeast Asia.
The Vatican Attempts to Prevent Peace
Pope John XXIII Rejects Geneva Agreement While a U.S. Catholic President Goes for “Unlimited Commitment.”
The Viet-Minh upsets the Catholic Church – The Geneva Agreement is anathema for the Vatican – Why the Vatican encouraged the U.S. to intervene in Vietnam – Why Diem refused to hold a ‘free” election – Why North Vietnam wanted the “free” election” – What an American senator has to say about it – The cardinal who flew in American military aircraft – American troops the “soldiers of Christ” – Vietnam is consecrated to the Virgin Mary – The Pope creates an archdiocese in communist Vietnam – Pope John XXIII – ecumenism-versus-realism – The Vietnamese Catholic Mafia and the three brothers – Kennedy escalates the war – “Unlimited”commitment in Vietnam.
Religious Persecutions and Suicides by Fire
World Opinion Forces U.S. to “Deplore Repressive Actions” of Diem.
The Catholic minority and the Buddhists – The sectarian volcano bursts out into the open – The Vatican flag in a Buddhist city – Celebration for Buddha’s birthday forbidden – The giant gong of Xa Loi Pagoda – The Buddhists burn a Catholic village – The monk’s message – Suicides by fire – Mass demonstration against Diem – Orders to close all pagodas – Buddhists killed by the Diem police – Buddhist students arrested and tortured – Refuge in the American embassy – The Americans are shocked at Diem’s ruthlessness – The U.S. “deplores repressive actions” – The Catholic-CIA-Diem lobby minimize the Buddhist agitations.
End of the Catholic Dictatorship
Assassinations of Two Catholic Presidents.
Why the American embassy was against Diem’s appointment – A disastrous choice – Kennedy’s double dilemma – Diem’s religious political priorities – Catholic dictatorships of Croatia and Vietnam compared – Diem and Pavelich’s main objectives – Diem’s religious operations endanger the U.S. war efforts in Vietnam – Buddhist deserters leave the Vietnamese army – Steps to avoid the disintegration of the army – American subsidies to Vietnam are suspended – CIA chief recalled – A free hand for a “Coup” against Diem – Diem and his brother are shot to death – President Kennedy is killed – Ten additional years of Vietnamese war – The final price, 58,000 young American lives.
Catholic Expansionism in Southeast Asia in the 19th Century
Historical Background of the U.S. War of Vietnam.
Catholic elites with a Buddhist background – The brothers Diem, inheritors of ancient Catholic exclusiveness – Stepping stones to the Catholic conquest of Indo-China – The Emperor Thieu Tri and the revolt of 1843 – French gunboats and Catholic emissaries – The 1862 “Friendship” imposed upon Vietnam – Friars, nuns, and their civil and military protectors – Massive Catholic conversions to the “true church” – The Catholicization of French Vietnam during the last century.
Early History of Catholic Power in Siam and China
Characteristic Precedents of Repression.
The French East India Company and the missionaries – The conversion to Catholicism of a Siamese king – Catholic discrimination against Buddhists – Ghastly deeds of a Catholic Mafia in Siam – Catholic and Frenchmen expelled and executed – End of the Vatican bid for the control of Siam – Siam forbids all Catholics for a century and a half – The Empress of China who became a Catholic – Empress Helena sends a mission to the pope – The Empress and the Jesuits plan to make China Catholic – Rebellion of the Mandarins – The end of a dream for a Catholic China.
History of Catholic Aggressiveness in Japan
Conversions, Rebellions, Political Unrest and Civil War
Catholic missionaries welcomed to Japan in the 16th century – Japanese rulers, protectors of the Catholic Church – The Catholic Church begins to meddle in Japanese politics – Japanese Catholics fight the authorities – Civil unrest and civil war promoted by the Church – Catholic sieges and battles – Catholic persecutions in Kyoto and Osaka – Battles between the Jesuits, Franciscans and the Japanese Catholics – The Spanish captain and the Japanese ruler of Hideyoshi – Imperial ban against all Catholics – The Catholics of Japan take up arms against the Japanese government – The Jesuits lead an army of 30,000 Japanese Catholics against the Japanese rulers – The murder by the Catholics of the Governor of Shimbara – Bloody battles between Catholics and Buddhists – The Dutch help the Japanese to fight the Catholics – The Edict: All Christians forbidden to enter Japan for 250 years.
Creation of a Dangerous Alliance
Retrospective Assessment of the Preliminaries of the U.S.-Vietnamese War.
The formula that worked in the past and which still works in the present – The “Cold War,” the U.S. and the Vatican – U.S.-Vatican dual fear of a common enemy – Pope Pius XII, the Dulles brothers and Cardinal Spellman – Power of the Catholic lobby in the U.S. – The secret ambassador of the State Department and the pope – Messages by word of mouth only – The trio which helped the U.S. into the war in Vietnam.
The Two Catholic Presidents and a Revolutionary Pope
The Collapse of the U.S.-Vatican Grand Strategy in Vietnam.
A cardinal, two brothers and Eisenhower – The prophecies of St. Malachy – The expectations of the first “American Pope” – Rift between two Catholic presidents – Politics before religion for Kennedy – Kennedy’s dilemma – The election of a revolutionary pope and the shock at the State Department – The crash of the U.S.-Vatican anti-communist crusade – Pope John XXIII scolds President Diem – The Buddhist delegation goes to the Vatican – President Diem begins to endanger the U.S. war operations in Vietnam – Second thoughts in Washington – The step by step slide towards the Vietnamese precipice – President Kennedy and his desperate ambassadors – The final decision – The end of Diem and his brother.
Secret Deal Between the Pope and the Communists of North Vietnam.
The Vatican Prepares for a United Marxist Vietnam.
The pope and Ho Chi Minh – Relenting of Vatican hostility toward North Vietnam – Pope John XXIII consecrates a united Vietnam to the Virgin Mary – Disapproval of the pope’s dedication – Reaction of Cardinal Spellman and the Catholic lobby of the U.S. – The Vatican takes the first steps for the abandonment of the U.S. in Vietnam – Catholic mass exodus of emigrants from the North – Political implications – Ho Chi Minh outfoxes the pope.
The Final Disaster
Disintegration of the Vietnam-U.S. Partnership in Vietnam.
Calamitous significance of the Pope John-Ho Chi Minh secret agreement – Their use of religion to attain political objectives The Virgin Mary to the help of a united Marxist Vietnam – The pattern of religious political exploitation – U.S. military escalation and the pope’s “wind of change” – Secret cooperation between the Vatican and Vietnamese Marxism – The Catholic Church withdraws from the war in Vietnam – Adverse effects of the Vatican Moscow alliance on the war in Vietnam – The end of an American nightmare.