Apparently, these are the folks behind “national conservatism.” While much of the Silicon Valley oligarchy has aligned itself with Wall Street and the traditional northeastern establishment, it appears at least some among them are trying to work the right-wing angle as well. Peter Thiel was a Trump backer, and now he is apparently bankrolling this “national conservatism” thing.

Max Chafkin, author of The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power and Bloomberg Businessweek reporter, joins The Realignment to discuss the past, present, and future of Silicon Valley and America.