We think you’re going to appreciate this thoughtful, insightful conversation about the history of the Israeli occupation of Palestine. We’re joined by Scott Horton, whose anti-war libertarian politics provide an alternate perspective on the conflict. Scott painstakingly covers the development of the occupation, Hamas control, American-Israeli politics, and broader regional politics over the past decades to get us to the moment we’re at now. Watch below:

Scott’s analysis of relations between the Palestinian Authority, the occupying Israeli government, and American leadership gives us insight into key moments in modern occupied Palestine. He covers the role of the Bush administration in pushing for an election, the outcome — Hamas’s victory — and the truth about this election, often twisted by Zionists: Hamas did not win a majority in any district, but only carried a plurality. Scott also covers the essential history of US security assistance to Fatah, Hamas’s rival, arming them to support a failed “bloody putsch,” described by David Rose in this article for Vanity Fair.

Given our country’s notorious history of pouring money into proxy wars, destabilizing foreign governments, and pursuing its own imperial interests throughout, the history Scott gives us in this episode of KK&F is essential to keep in mind, especially as the American government continues to pour money into Israel’s genocidal campaign. We hope you find this historical deep dive as urgent and fascinating as we did. You can listen to this episode as a podcast when it’s released tomorrow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Pandora, and more.