Discussing Jellyfish, Genocide, Epstein Deaths, Plumber Pilots, EuroLeader Clowns, BioWW3, and Magical Blue Cities with Richie Allen

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Last night’s interview with broadcasting legend Richie Allen covered a lot of ground. Read the imperfect transcript below (minor truncations courtesy of the Substack transcription engine) in whole or in part, or listen above. You can listen to Richie’s whole show—he discussed Jewish power in the media before I came on, and listener comments about me after I left—here. -KB

Richie Allen: Let’s welcome back to the program a man who needs very little introduction, a regular contributor, not just to this program, but to many publications like Unz, etc., Kevin Barrett in Morocco. How are you, Kevin?

Kevin Barrett: Hey, I’m doing very well, Richie. I swam in the Mediterranean already twice today, so I can’t complain.

Richie Allen: You bollocks, as we say in Ireland. You absolute bollocks. I’m nowhere near the sea, but that sounds idyllic, mate. It sounds absolutely idyllic. Sounds lovely. I used to do it when I was living in Spain, of course. I used to swim in the Med when I was dodging the jellyfish. Do you get many jellyfish, Kevin?

Kevin Barrett: No, I’ve actually never had a jellyfish. Are they delicious?

Richie Allen: They’re gorgeous. They’re absolutely delicious. Nice bit of salt and pepper. Do you know, it was a very funny story. We’re going off on a tangent here now. I was swimming on a beach near Estepona some years ago. It was isolated, the beach. And at the very top of the beach, you had the carretera, the highway. And I had a very, very mild sting from a jellyfish on my arm. I swam through a bit of seaweed orsomething, and I got a bit of a sting. No big deal. But the missus was so scared, she left the water, and she ran across the road, Kevin. She ran across the road.

She left the beach and ran the other side of the highway. I never laughed as hard in all my life. I thought, how many bee horror movies have you seen that you think the jellyfish can somehow… So you’ve never been stung by a jellyfish, no?

Kevin Barrett: I think when I was a little kid I was, but here in Saïdia, Morocco, I never have been.

Zach Polanski, is a bit of a buffoon who’s easily pulled apart. A statement he made about his family fleeing the Holocaust has been widely debunked.

Richie Allen: Yeah, good on you. Yeah. Yeah, they used to really infest the Costa del Sol from Marbella downto Santa Grande, particularly in July and August. And you’d be worried about it sometimes. Anyway, great to have you back. It’s a good day to be talking to you because there’s lots of Zionist related news here in this country anyway. Here’s my very quick take on it in 15 seconds and then you take over. It’s one thing the Greens deciding that our stated policy will be that Zionism is racist. But it’s another thing that the leader of the Green Party, Zach Polanski, is a bit of a buffoon who’s easily pulled apart. a statement he made about his family fleeing the Holocaust has been widely debunked.And today he’s being denounced as a liar, Kevin, because a statement he made about his family fleeing the Holocaust has been widely debunked. What do you make of this whole Green Party, Zionism is Racism?

Kevin Barrett: You know, I haven’t been following that issue closely, Richie. You really should have let me know that’s what you wanted to talk about.

Richie Allen: I should have done that. Do you want me to give you the… So the Green Party had its party political conference. And Greens for Palestine insisted that a motion be put to the party. That either, yes, we agree that Green Party policy from now on says that Zionism equals racism and that we should support a one-state solution for Palestine. Now only 2,000 Green Party members voted. But it was a democratic vote, and the ayes have it. So the majority of those who did vote, voted, and this automatically changes the policy of the Green Party, which from now on in, says that Zionism is racism, and that if you are a Zionist, you’re a racist. And the Green Party will from now on in promote the idea there should only be one state and that is Palestine. Now needless to say, Kevin, the Zionist lobby in this country, the boards of deputies of British Jews, have said “this is outrageous. This is the most dangerous time in recent history for Jews in Britain and this will be open season on UK Jews. It’s open hatred now.” So that’s basically it. I haven’t left anything out really.

Kevin Barrett: Right. Well, actually, I had heard that. What I hadn’t heard was about the involvement of Zach Polanski, who can hypnotize women into having larger breasts and claims to be a Holocaust survivor, that part I somehow missed. And so as far as Zionism being racism, I mean, that’s kind of repetitious and redundant. That’s like passing a resolution saying the Pope is Catholic and the sun rises in the east and sets in the West. But of course, it’s also guaranteed to bring out all of the Zionist cockroaches screaming and whining about how the fact that they are genociding people for being subhuman goyim who are not on their level as chosen people, chosen by virtue of their genetic inheritance—because the main way that you’re Jewish is having a mother who is Jewish. But that’s, of course, not racism. And if you think genociding subhumans that you don’t think are your equal is racism, then you yourself are the very worst form of racist, that is, an anti-Semite. And you probably even have harbored doubts about the Holocaust. I mean, that’s just bizarre that that could be seriously disputed.

Richie Allen: Yeah, Polanski used to be a stage hypnotist, and he also did private hypnotherapy sessions with people before he got into politics. And he would tell female clients, he would, Polanski, that h could help them enlarge their breasts through hypnosis. So that was a given. So he did that. But apparently, he has told reporters in the past that he has a direct connection to Nazi Germany, and that one of his great grandparents or somebody escaped the camps. But this has been challenged by people who say he was making it up. So my very ham-fisted point was it’s one thing for the Greens to say our stated policy is only one state of Palestine and Zionism is racism. On the other hand, it’s very easy for the Zionist lobby to take down Polanski because he is a bit of a clown. That’s all I was saying.

Kevin Barrett: I see. Yeah. Okay. So Polanski himself doesn’t have any problem with the Zionism is racism thing. And that’s, I guess, to his credit.

Richie Allen: Yeah. But he’s a clown. Sadly, you know what I mean? Stay off of our side. You might say stay off of our side, you know.

So when Polanski was hypnotizing women into having larger breasts, I can imagine him saying, instead of “your eyelids are getting heavy,” it was “your breasts are getting heavy…”

Kevin Barrett: Right, right. The political leaders in the West are really kind of a sad lot altogether. I mean, it’s the European ones are courting nuclear destruction and seemingly completely oblivious to the insanity of their anti-Russia policy, among other things. And then in America we have Trump, who has taken the clown show to a new level. The West is definitely a place of bizarre and clownlike political leadership.

So when Polanski was hypnotizing women into having larger breasts, I can imagine him saying, instead of “your eyelids are getting heavy,” it was “your breasts are getting heavy…” But that’s nothing compared to what some of these Epsteined leaders do…like Dennis Hastert. He just died. Dennis Hastert, the former U.S. Speaker of the House, who had absolutely no political talent and no political motivations, no political anything, was created as a Epstein class frontman. May he and all the other Epstein-class politicians rest in hell.

If you’ve exposed people’s connection to Epstein (like Simon Andriesz exposed Lutnick’s) you’re risking that somebody’s going to come and kill you.

Richie Allen: And you mentioned this on the day when everybody’s talking about the former banker, Simon Andriesz. He exposed Howard Lutnick, didn’t he? And Lutnick’s ties to Jeffrey Epstein. And Simon Andriesz is dead. He died. He died in the last day or so. And a lot of people, some of them idiots, it must be said, but some of them people that we listen to, they reckon this guy, Simon Andriesz, has been suicided. He’s been killed. Including people like Craig Murray. Now, you might have some time for Craig Murray. I don’t particularly, but it doesn’t matter. So that shouldn’t come as any great surprise, should it? If you’ve exposed people’s connection to Epstein, you’re risking that somebody’s going to come and kill you.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, there’s a whole kind of Epstein death count going on now, like there used to be a Clinton death count. And among the people who have died suspiciously, who were connected to Epstein and his part of the Israeli Mossad pedophile blackmail ring are Robert Maxwell, the Mossad super spy, Virginia Giuffre, Carolyn Andriano, Joe Recarey, Daniel Siad, Jean-Luc Brunel, Steven Hoffenberg, Mark Middleton, and on and on and on. Yeah, it’s probably not a coincidence. And Howard Lutnick is really a piece of work, right? Have you seen these videos where Trump seems to be ribbing Lutnick by bringing up things like, “oh, Howard Lutnick claimed that on 9/11 he didn’t go to work. And so all of his employees got killed. But he survived because he said he had to take his kid to the first day of school.” And there’s Lutnick next to Trump laughing and laughing. It’s hilarious how every one of his employees was killed.

And he knew to stay home from work and lied and said school was starting that day, which it wasn’t. And then he’s lied about his connections with Epstein as well. What a piece of work.

Richie Allen: And Trump must know now. I mean, he did know when he was a businessman. Because when Trump was a businessman, he openly said, I do not believe the official story. I do not believe the planes brought down the buildings. And if Trump is ribbing, and I did see that video, if Trump is ribbing this guy, Lutnick, about the fact that he stayed at home and all his employees died, it suggests yet again that Trump knows the game that he’s in. I mean, I believe Trump is nothing more than a puppet. But Trump is aware of it. And he’s happy enough to be in that game.

I mean, these are levels of evil that, they horrify me, Kevin. I don’t know what else to say. If Trump knows that his fellow New Yorkers were butchered and turned into vapour on September the 11th, boy, I know you believe Israel had a big hand in it, and maybe Israel did. But by the, you know, by the Israeli Mossad, maybe working with American intelligence, maybe not. For Trump to find that funny! What sort of evil, can you find words to describe it?

Kevin Barrett: Well, the way Trump was needling Howard Lutnick was not exactly…Trump wasn’t the one who was cracking up. But yeah, it did seem like there was an element of unsavoriness in Trump’s attitude. Not as much as Lutnick’s, of course. But Trump obviously is basically a sociopath. He’s an extreme narcissist, and so all he really cares about is his own ego. He’s just locked up in his own ego, and he has no compassion for anybody outside of it. And so that’s not a surprise.

Nick Bryant wrote the book on the Franklin cover-up, The Franklin Scandal. Nick Bryant has investigated these, what do you call them, blackmail pedophile rings, the Epstein ring, and similar things. And he says for those guys, it’s like being on a yacht. And you have the very best food and drink and beverages and attractive young whatevers and all you want of all of that stuff. That’s the life you get while you’re on the yacht. But if you try to leave it, you’re dead. They all know that.

Richie Allen: They just know. You’re listening to Kevin Barrett. I want to bring our listeners up to speed. I did a shitty thing there. I didn’t explain it properly. So Howard Lutnick is Trump’s Commerce Secretary. And he used to headup the BGC group in Wall Street. No, no, he didn’t. Sorry, let me get it right now, off the top of my head. Simon Andrews worked for a Wall Street firm called BGC. And Lutnick was there as Chief Executive, if I’ve got this right. And Simon Andriesz brought up these allegations linking Lutnick with Jeffrey Epstein, basically saying that he was a confidant of Epstein.

Now this guy, this whistleblower, Simon Andriesz, has been found dead, and they’re saying the cause of death is suicide. And a lot of people are saying, I don’t buy it. And maybe they’re right to say they don’t buy it. We remember the alleged suicide of Epstein himself. That was a story that had more holes in it than a Swiss cheese, didn’t it, Kevin?

First time in all of history that a pilot has put a plane into a suicide dive and not succeeded in killing all the passengers.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, it’s funny how they can peddle these stories, these ridiculous stories, like the heroic plumber who pulled the Emirati plane full of Israelis out of a suicide dive. First time in all of history that a pilot has put a plane into a suicide dive and not succeeded in killing all the passengers.

And the one guy who did what no other pilot has ever been able to do happens to be an Israeli plumber. If you look at the the story that they’re peddling about that event, which is probably going to save Netanyahu—without that, he would have lost and probably gone to prison or worse—and now he’s probably going to win. And people believe that. So if you look at the details, it’s just crazy.

Richie Allen: A strange story, isn’t it?

Kevin Barrett: The Epstein suicide story looks plausible by comparison.

Richie Allen: Yeah, the plane, the averted disaster, there’s so many things wrong with that. Obviously, I have to concede that. Yes, of course. I got annoyed with some listeners last week who, they knew everything, Kevin, you know. I’m like, hang on, if I can give it a few days, just wait. You know,sometimes pilots do lose their minds. It’s not beyond… The bounds of possibility. But if you’re honest about it and if you keep an open mind, you’ve got to say that’s a ridiculous story.

I do worry about AI, though, Kevin. I saw an image over the weekend of a glass that was propped up on a folding tray on the plane. And somebody said, look, this is proof the plane didn’t drop into a steep descent, whatever it was, 20,000 feet in a couple of minutes or whatever it was. But you just don’t know, there’s so much misinformation out there. At the beginning of the programme, I talked about hasbara and how they have factories of men and women putting out bullshit in the public domain, you know, to misdirect people and stuff. But yeah, that was a strange story. And as you said, the one person who benefited from it more than anybody else was Netanyahu. So I’m quite happy to imagine that that whole thing was staged. And didn’t these guys speak in English? In the midst of all of this carnage on the plane, they had the calmness to turn their phones on and start making videos in English, which was a bit mad to me as well. So yes, I’m with you. A very strange story, and I don’t buy it either.

Kevin Barrett: Right. I don’t know about that glass of water, but the fact is that the rate of descent in the loss of altitude that they claimed is completely implausible given those videos. Had there been that kind of plunge, passengers would have been bouncing off the ceiling.

So people have asked me, what do you think really happened? And my take is that Netanyahu went to see Mohammed bin Zayed in Dubai and MBZ refused to recant his statements of a few weeks ago that he gave Netanyahu an urgent warning before October 7th, 2023. And that was just the latest of reports of these urgent warnings. Egypt gave him repeated warnings as well.

Netanyahu didn’t pass any of these warnings on to his security apparatus, at least not the official ones. So anyway, MBZ was now having a problem with Netanyahu. Netanyahu secretly flew to the Emirates and met with him. And then a couple days later, we have this bizarre Emirati plane incident.

So my take would be that Netanyahu threatened MBZ and got MBZ…he didn’t back down from what he said about the 10/7 warning. It was too late. But at least he would give Netanyahu a chance to do a little public relations stunt.

And so what probably happened on that plane, as best as I can reconstruct how it could have been done…

And so what probably happened on that plane, as best as I can reconstruct how it could have been done, is that there would have been a complicit “plumber” and complicit pilot and maybe another complicit co-pilot (flying as a passenger). And that’s all you need. The other passengers could be real passengers.

And so what you do is you have the plane being taken over by uninterruptible autopilot, which we know exists. Whistleblower Dan Hanley has exposed that it was out there before 9/11 and it was almost certainly used on 9/11. So it’s a remotefly-by-computer program or fly-by-wire from an external source. So the plane would have been put on fly-by-wire. The patsy would have gone berserk on command. The pilot would have fought with him and splattered on some fake blood. Or maybe he cut himself a little bit. And then the cockpit door would be popped open a little bit. The plumber, according to script, would come in there and smack the patsy and pretend to take over the plane and pull it out of the dive.

But what the plane would have been doing is not going down 10,000 feet. It would have been a much shallower dive, just enough to scare the passengers. Then the off-duty pilot comes forward, lands the plane, and you’ve got your op. And that would be a very straightforward way to do it.

Richie Allen: It’s a plausible, it’s certainly a plausible scenario you’ve put forward there. I have to concede that I don’t know what happened up there, but I don’t believe the version they gave us for many of the reasons you just outlined there…the plane seemed to be in great order despite having this horrendous plunge. which would have had, you know, overhead compartments. He would have had luggage everywhere. People would have been bleeding. They would have hit their heads. He would have all sorts of injuries.He would have had a tangle of legs and bodies. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Kevin Barrett has a Substack, kevinbarrett.substack.com. He’s on unz.com as well as truthjihad.com. He’s an academic, broadcaster, all-round good egg and regular contributor to this programme, although I’ve never paid him a penny, in fact.

Kevin Barrett: Shame on you.

Richie Allen: Shame on me is right. Absolutely. Shame on you. It’s like that Bush thing. Shame on you for falling for it. Listen, here’s one from Faisal. Yeah. That’s a goodshout from Faisal, yeah. Yeah, again, you don’t have to pull too hard at these threads for them to start falling apart. I wanted to ask you about something else. It’s kind of related. You might not be aware, but writers for the conservative newspapers, The Telegraph in particular…Now these writers, I could name a few of them, they pop up on BBC panel shows pretty much every day and they’ve always been very supportive of Trump. The financial impact of the Iran situation is turning them pretty heavily against Donald Trump here because their readers are feeling it. And they’re losing out. Like, everybody is losing out because inflation skyrocketed, food prices gone through the roof and continuing to rise. And you’ve got Telegraph conservative writers saying they’ve had enough of Trump and enough of Iran. But this situation with Iran, and it pains me to say this because I feel the financial pinch as well, It shows no sign of ending, does it? What’s happening, do you think?

Why would Iran want to negotiate a new agreement with somebody who can’t keep to his old one, the MOU?

Kevin Barrett: Well, it’s obviously a case where you can’t squeeze blood out of the proverbial stone. You can’t squeeze surrender out of the Iranians. They’re hard as rocks. And they’ve been subjected to economic warfare ever since 1979 to greater and lesser degrees. They’re used to it. And they’ve got the support of the world’s most powerful country, which is China, not the United States. So they’re not going to fall. And the only way out of this war is to follow the Memorandum Of Understanding that Trump signed months ago and then reneged on. And Iran’s perspective is, number one, we have the leverage. We can keep doing this as long as we need to.

And then number two is, why would we want to negotiate a new agreement with somebody who can’t keep to his old one? If you signed that last agreement, Mr. Trump, that’s the agreement that we have to hold to, because you’re proving that it’s not worth having an agreement with you, and anything you sign is utterly worthless. So we’re not going to go and have you sign some new agreement. Live up to your old one first.

Richie Allen: Could I be right here? I know you disagree with this, but I’ll ask you anyway. Could I be right? Well, to be fair to you, you do listen to me and you don’t totally dismiss it out of hand. But I believe that all the leaders of all the countries are controlled by some other entity. I really do, Kevin. And I think evidence of this is the cretins in Downing Street. I mean, if these people were operating of their own volition, they’d be off to Tehran, wouldn’t they? And if the Tehran leaders were operating of their own volition, they’d be off to London. And they’d sit down and they’d say, listen, if any of this was real, they’d be saying, look… We’re not having any more of this clown in America or his mates in other parts of the world. So we’re going to put an end to all of this, and we’re going to get the oil flowing again and the Strait of Hormuz open again. I work on this basis, because nearly 20 years doing what I’m doing now. All the roads keep going down that route for me, that none of these people are authentic, that they are being operated or being instructed by agents or by people or by entities that I just don’t know. You give it some credence, do you?

Kevin Barrett: I think that’s certainly true when it comes to the UK and indeed most of Europe. But looking at it historically, we can see that even in Europe, which has been essentially under US occupation since World War II, there have been greater and lesser degrees. And in fact, there were some episodes of rebellion and actual sovereignty.

France was actually more or less sovereign under De Gaulle. And then once again, around the time of 9/11, it was semi-sovereign under Jacques Chirac. And of course, Olaf Palme of Sweden was not doing what the Americans and their Zionist masters told him, and so he got assassinated.

The Trump administration attacked China with the COVID bioweapon in 2019.

So there are all of these cases where European countries have tried to become more sovereign and get out from under the American empire that’s been occupying them since World War II, but the empire just keeps creeping back in. And looking around the whole world, China is not occupied by the United States. Obviously, China is a huge national security threat to the United States empire, which is why the Trump administration attacked China with the COVID bioweapon in 2019. And likewise, Russia is not under the thumb of the United States, which is why the US is attacking Russia through Ukraine. So basically, you Europeans need to overthrow American occupation.

And with Trump as unpopular as he is, it shouldn’t really be that hard. Come on, what’s wrong with you guys?

Richie Allen: Yeah, but I wasn’t suggesting that they’re in control or being influenced by the United States.I’m talking about something else, something that’s unknown. The reason I say this is I don’t believe that the Iranian administrations, I won’t use that horrible mainstream media term regime, I can’t stand it, but the administrations in Tehran, the administrations in Egypt, the administrations in African countries, in Russia and in China, Those administrations do not act in the best interests of their people. They never have, Kevin. Not by any… You know, honest academic measurement. They do not. They act in the interests of their own elites. That’s the point I’m making. And the people always suffer.

Working men and women in every country in the world are under the jackboot or are under the yoke, if you want to use the term the yoke. That’s the point I’m making. You know, I get pissed off when Putin fans tell me, oh, Putin, and he’s great, and he’s holding them back.

I’m like, try and be Russian, man. It’s no picnic there. And it never has been. And it’s too simplistic to say, well, Western imperialism. I think historically these elites in these countries have never acted in the interests of their people. You come back on that. That’s the point I wasmaking.

Kevin Barrett: Yeah, I think there’s a significant variation, but it’s true that throughout human history, or at least the history of so-called civilization, life in cities under complex political systems, elites have dominated and usually put their own interests first. That’s absolutely correct. But I think there have been exceptions or cases where some elites are more rapacious and self-interested than others. Right now, I think that China actually went under communism with an ideology that claimed that it was operating on behalf of the working people, and that didn’t work out so well. Around 1980-whatever, it shifted to a more pragmatic policy. I actually think that the current Mandarin elite of China, which is selected by national examinations, and you basically have to have 150 plus IQ to even think about applying. Just like throughout Chinese history, they’ve sought out the best minds from the entire country, and that CCP neo-Confucian elite actually is guiding China, according to their conception of the quote unquote national interest, which does include concern for the physical welfare of ordinary Chinese people. They’re doing that a lot more of that than the Epstein class elite that rules the West, which doesn’t care at all about ordinary people.

Richie Allen: You know that I don’t get my information from writers or the Associated Press, that I look in exotic places to get a take or to get an opinion on something. My understanding of China is that it is one of the most repressive places in the world in terms of its legislative body. Bodies work day and night to keep the people there under surveillance. And there are pretty awful penalties in the country just for dissenting against the line of the party. We know about internet suppression there. And we know that China executes an awful lot of its own people. Not for what we would understand as capital crimes. Like, I wouldn’t want to live there. You know,we’ve all read about the Great Firewall, how it blocks out…you know, even our discussion today will not be heard in China because they’re not allowed to listen to it, even though I’m not looking at Human Rights Watch or Amnesty International. I’m looking at lots and lots of different sources, Kevin.

Kevin Barrett: Well, I beg to differ. I think that the so-called Great Firewall is, as I understand it, it’s just as vulnerable to VPNs as Iran’s is. I’ve been to Iran, and it’s the same thing there, and everybody just uses a VPN. So everybody’s got total internet access, although it’s not always running as fast as one might like. Just like the traffic, it’s not always moving as fast as one might like in the avenues. But in China, all the polls, which nobody’s really disputing, seem to show about 70-80% of Chinese people like the way their country is being run.

Richie Allen: How could we believe the polls, though?

Actually, you can say what you want in China to a large extent, from what I hear. You just might get shadowbanned. (Just like the US or UK.)

Kevin Barrett: They have confidence in their government and in the future. And basically, the main difference between the censorship there and here is that there, it’s being done by the CCP elite, supposedly for the benefit of everyone, whereas in the U.S., it’s being done by a criminal oligarchy for its own benefit. But in both cases, it’s exactly the same. Actually, you can say what you want in China to a large extent, from what I hear. You just might get shadowbanned. And then at some point somebody might call you in for a meeting and then they’ll buy you a meal and they’ll talk to you and they’ll be friendly and they’ll explain why you can’t cross this line. And it’ll be a while before you start having any harsh consequences.

Richie Allen: Yeah, and they have the social credit system up and running there as well.

Kevin Barrett: Which is transparent.

Richie Allen: Yeah, but it’s terrible, Kevin. It’s all solitaire.

Kevin Barrett: Ours isn’t transparent. In the US, it’s private companies that gobble up all this data on you,and then you have to pay to see somebody’s data, to see what their credit score is. In China, it’s all public, so everybody just sees each other’s credit scores. Isn’t that better?

Richie Allen: You’re deflecting now because you’re presupposing that we don’t spend a lot of time lambasting the governments of our countries for the decimating of free speech, which has been going on for years. We do that all the time. I’m talking about China.

But just on Iran, this one from Liz. A lot of people agree with you, by the way, in the comments. I have to say that. This one from Liz. Tehran is working on a 15-minute city framework. Tehran participated in the plandemic with restrictions and jabs. I myself believe it’s all one big club lording it over all of us.

Now, I’m reading that out because I’ve already conceded that a lot of our listeners are leaning towards you. But there’s the dissenting voice. 15-minute city framework in Tehran. That’s the point I’m making,Kevin. Wherever you look, great if Iran… It’s pushing back against the US hegemony or US imperialism. Fantastic if that’s the truth, and maybe it is on some level. But in these countries, their citizens are swallowing the same shit that we are. What do you say to Liz there about the 15-minute cities inTehran?

Their purpose was to try to develop fast-acting vaccines that could be brought out very quickly in future bioattacks, so they could unleash something a lot worse than COVID and they would have the only antidote.

Kevin Barrett: Well, Liz, you’ve got the COVID thing kind of wrong. I mean, I was part of the COVID dissent movement myself. But the reason that Iran and China locked down and jabbed people and stuff is because they knew that they were under biological attack. Now, they didn’t use mRNA vaccines. They didn’t have access to them. And what COVID was, was it was a biological attack on China, and it succeeded in cutting the growth rate differential between the United States and China in half, which was its purpose. And they attacked Iran because the Zionists hate Iran, and they have so much power in the United States.

So China and Iran both knew that they were under biological attack from the United States, and they did everything they could to try to mitigate that biological attack. Likewise, the whole world knew that there was a bioengineered virus loose. And they felt the necessity of trying to do something about it.

And the mRNA vaccines were built by the same people who did the bioattack. Their purpose was to try to develop fast-acting vaccines that could be brought out very quickly in future bioattacks, so they could unleash something a lot worse than COVID and they would have the only antidote. So that’s what COVID was.

It was not some kind of psyop where there was no virus. Yes, there really was a virus. It was built in North Carolina and Montana.

Richie Allen: No, I don’t agree with that. I’ve never seen that evidence, but I know that’s your opinion, and I can’t disprove what you’ve said at all. I can’t, but I don’t agree with it. Yeah, there was a virus, but I don’t believe it was any worse than seasonal flu for most people. But I want to put this to you. You say the operation was a biological attack on China and maybe an ideological one as well, maybe. Again, look, I’m not going to split hairs on that. I see what happened in 2020 as.. Restrictions on our freedoms, not just the freedom to move around, but the freedom to have an opinion and all of that. I’d say that their primary target was on Western democracies and our understanding that we’re free to move around and we’re free to say no to medical interventions if we don’t like it. I think mostly what happened in 2020, 2021 and 2022 …

We’re in the middle of stealth World War III.

Kevin Barrett: We’re in the middle of stealth World War III. And it’s been going on…you could say it started in 2014 with the Maidan coup, or you could say it started with the U.S. COVID bioattack in 2019. And the reason they’re taking our freedoms away is because they’re waging World War III. The Zionist Epstein Syndicate that rules the UnitedStates, and that rules the West, sees its power slipping. It sees that U.S. share of global GDP is below 15 percent and falling. China was outgrowing the United States by a massive factor before COVID, and now by half of that.

The Epstein class is fighting to maintain their world hegemony. And to do that, they feel they need to take away people’s freedom because you can’t have freedom in wartime.

And you’re going to notice that we’re in the middle of World War III when a Russian nuke goes off over the UK or, God forbid, a Russian nuclear torpedo causes an 800-foot radioactive tidal wave to permanently end life on the British Isles. At that point, you’re going to notice that you’re in World War III.

I think you guys should wake up and notice right now and then take back your countries.

Richie Allen: There were hundreds of thousands of people in London in 2020, and all they had to do was just walk through the gates of Downing Street in such numbers.

Violence was completely unnecessary, and they could have basically evicted everybody on that street and said, we’ve had enough of it. And then they could have turned and walked up to Buckingham Palace, gone down the Mall and said, no, we’re not having you people anymore. We’re tired of it. Yeah, I get upset thinking about it sometimes.

The Blue City in Morocco

People have forgotten that the power is really in the hands of the people. I wanted to ask you, before we impart company today, my better half, who loves listening to you, by the way, she says, would you ask Kevin if he’s ever visited the Blue City in or near Morocco? And if you have, what’s it like?

Kevin Barrett: She’s talking about Chefchaouen, which is this marvelous Moroccan city up against the huge mountains, the Rif. It’s not very far from Tangier. If you’re going to bother to go to Tangier, you definitely should head over to Chefchaouen and check it out. It has beautiful vernacular Mediterranean architecture, these soft, round forms on these buildings out of plaster, all painted this unearthly shade of blue. It’s right up against the mountains. There’s a waterfall. It’s really a beautiful place. And it was a refuge for refugees from the genocide of the Iberian Peninsula. As you may know, Richie, the Muslims and Jews were forced out of Spain. Half of them were massacred. The other half survived. And a lot of them ended up in Morocco. And Chefchaouen was a major base of resistance against the genocide. It actually was founded by refugees from Al-Andalus, the great Muslim civilization of the Iberian Peninsula.

Richie Allen: Beautiful, I reckon, Kevin, yeah. So we visited Morocco a couple of times, but never went further than Fez. But yeah, it sounds absolutely brilliant. Thanks for your time today. Kevin is onSubstack, kevinbarrett.substack.com. He’s on unz.com too. Check out truthjihad.com. Kevin is an academic, he is a broadcaster and author, and he lives in Morocco with the wonderful Rabia, who might be listening to some of this now or later on. If she is, how you doing, Rabia? Hope you’re well. Kevin, thanks, mate. Until next time, thanks for everything. Appreciate you.

Kevin Barrett: Okay, thank you, Richie. And best from Rabia and I to your better half as well.

Richie Allen: Fantastic, Kevin. Kevin Barrett, live on The Richie Allen Show. Monday’s programme. An enormous amount of comments came in there. I’ll read them out now in a couple of minutes’ time…

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