At The Economist, we believe it is important to engage seriously with people whose ideas challenge our own. In keeping with that belief, our editor-in-chief, Zanny Minton Beddoes, and our deputy editor, Ed Carr, spoke to Steve Bannon, one of the chief architects of the MAGA movement. Bannon insists that president Trump will have a third term and has played a role in galvanising Europe’s populist nationalists, many of whom are now close to power. Subscribers can watch the full interview as part of our new video series The Insider.

00:00 – The Economist interviews Steve Bannon 00:52 – What kind of America does Bannon want to build? 02:00 – Bannon on seizing America’s institutions 06:15 – Bannon says Trump will have a third term 10:41 – Bannon’s role in populist nationalist movements in Europe Watch the full interview: https://econ.st/49jp0wr Why the MAGA economy is thriving: https://econ.st/4nmSqxb Agriculture faces a MAGA reckoning: https://econ.st/3WTpD8u Sign up to the Insider newsletter: https://econ.st/4nOyzIb