Listen to the interview.

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Robert interviews William Norman Grigg. Topics include:

• The police state, and its abuses and corruptions;
• The War on Terror;
• The making of a prison society;
• The new indefinite detention bill
• The framing of Ed Steele;
• Why its important to defend the rights of those with unpopular political views.

William Norman Grigg has authored several books from a Constitutionalist perspective. He used to be a senior editor of John Birch Society’s The New American magazine and has written for Lew Rockwell and the American Conservative. He blogs at Pro-Libertate.