Why the Tea Partiers Will Fail 10

The Populist Insurgency and Foreign Policy: Why Are Non-Interventionists Marginalized? by Leon T. Hadar

Obama Retreats by Maury2K

Maury sums it up pretty well:

While Democrats sit on their hands and Republicans play their waiting game, the Tea Party Movement has built up a head of steam. They denounce the status quo, talk “revolution,” demand the dismantling of the Federal Reserve and other radical sounding solutions.

The Tea Party folks display energy, enthusiasm and will power to reach their goal. However, their movement is starting to come unglued because of their own ideological short-comings. For example, they continually bash Obama’s alleged “socialism” when, in fact, he is as dedicated as Bush to corporate rule.

The Tea Party Movement ignores the myriad wars though they are wrecking the economy. Partly, this is out of a sense of faux-patriotism. But what is patriotic about sacrificing our brave men & women for something other than defense of the country?

We could go on but you know the drill.

We need street politics whereas I fear the Tea Party will end up as electoral cannon fodder for a bankrupt GOP.

Any supposed “radical” movement in North American that does not have a firm rejection of the Empire as one of its foremost principles is out of the game before it even starts. To those readers who are interested in working with these movements, my advice would be that you can probably be most effective by serving as a voice that can educate some of these people (at least the more reasonable and intelligent ones) as to the true nature of the Empire. My suggestion would be to avoid referring them to leftist, “anti-American” writers like Chomksy and Zinn and instead attempt  to turn them on to neo-isolationists and the antiwar Right like Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, Andrew Bacevich, Claes Ryn, Lew Rockwell, Eric Margolis, Justin Raimondo, and others. I have found from experience that the arguments made by Michael Scheuer are among the most effective when dealing run of the mill center-right types.

10 comments

  1. I’ve experienced precisely the same problem with these people,, both in my area and online. Keep in mind most of them take their marching orders from Glenn Beck, who inundiates his listeners with daily doses of conspiracy regarding Obama’s alleged socialist origins and designs. They wail about Obama’s economic policies destroying capitalism, obvlivious to the fact that authentic capitalism has never even existed in this country. I think a large part of this confusion stems from the fact that they, like most Americans, view politicians as self-directed and autonomous, and don’t stop think to factor in external lobbying and manipulation. A large contributing factor to their blindness to Obama’s dedication to corporate rule is probably the fact that they’ve never considered the possibility of corproate rule in the first place.

  2. Speaking of neo-isolationists via a vis “anti-American” leftists, the New York Post was gloating over Howard Zinn’s death this week, and pulled out their ultimate insult:

    “True to form, Zinn (like the right-wing isolationist Pat Buchanan) portrayed even World War II as a false model of American military domination over the world.”

    Gosh, even WWII! In fact, the Post’s Radosh found only one good thing to say about Zinn:

    “Zinn served his country during the Second World War as a bombardier, for which he should be commended. Possibly, he felt some guilt at the collateral deaths of civilians his wartime service may have caused; that is understandable.”

    Yes, if you ever need to ingratiate yourself with a NeoCon, just mention your war crimes. Nothing warms their heart more than hearing about civilian deaths; as long as someone else is sent over to do it. Cluck-cluck.

  3. “A large contributing factor to their blindness to Obama’s dedication to corporate rule is probably the fact that they’ve never considered the possibility of corproate rule in the first place.”

    A lot of those people are complete ignoramuses when it comes to economic policy. They think the cause of “big government” is food stamps, foreign aid, and public housing. They have never heard of corporate welfare and think the military-industrial complex is a myth invented by Communists. And the expensive entitlements that they denounce so fervently are mostly middle-class oriented programs like Medicare and Social Security of which they are the primary beneficiaries.

  4. “Yes, if you ever need to ingratiate yourself with a NeoCon, just mention your war crimes. Nothing warms their heart more than hearing about civilian deaths; as long as someone else is sent over to do it.”

    There is no low to which the neocons will not stoop.

  5. I agree strongly with your post # 3. These types think the only thing wrong with the American regime is “big government”, by which they’re referring to the welfare state. The corporate and police states, the empire, and the something bad industrial complexes they’ve never even heard of.

  6. Another source of left/right agreement on goals if not motives might lie with the more “libertarian” or Randian economic types. Again, there might not be much agreement domestically [unions, minimum wage, etc.] but here’s Mish Shedlock on his blog today sounding not unlike Chomsky or Zinn:

    The country most responsible for the “Arms Race” is the United States of America. US troops stationed all over the world are a destabilizing force.

    We invaded Iraq without justification, blew Iraq to smithereens, and any country in region their right mind would not want that to happen to them.

    Indeed, a strong argument can be made that Iran having a nuclear bomb would be a stabilizing force. If Iran could adequately protect itself, the US would think twice about invading.

    One can argue this from many points of view, including China’s. China has everything to gain, both short and long term, from its policy of assisting Iran. Moreover, threats of “diplomatic isolation of China” are laughable. Think the world would go along with that? Heck, not even the US would.

    Earlier today I commented on a huge protest in Japan over US bases. Please see Thousands in Tokyo Protest Against US Troops in Japan for details.

    The end of US global dictatorship is nigh. That is a good thing given that we cannot afford the cost.

    ]http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/01/clinton-presses-china-over-iran-nuke.html]

  7. Quagmire,

    True in most cases, but some on the Right have seen the light. Paul Craig Roberts, for example was a Reagan Treasury official and still defends tax cuts, but has been more outspoken than almost anyone on the Left about both the cost of Empire and the domestic security state. He’s one of the few people who regularly appears both at CounterPunch as well as Vdare.

  8. The Tea Party is not a movement, it is a rabble of mostly poorly articulate and likewise organized discontents that think they can profit off naming their yell-o-ramas the same as the action that the brave souls two and a half centuries past did in the face of tyranny.

    However, as stated, that was action, all I’ve seen from these people are words.

  9. Quagmire,

    “These types think the only thing wrong with the American regime is “big government”, by which they’re referring to the welfare state. The corporate and police states, the empire, and the something bad industrial complexes they’ve never even heard of.”

    The key to eventually reaching these center-right types is time. Right now, they tend to be ultra-patriotic System-loyalists when the GOP turds are in power, and then put up an ignorant and amateurish but militant opposition when “the Left” is in power. The day needs to come when they start realizing en masse that the System is never going to do anything for them. This will become more obvious as the economy continues to spiral down towards Third World status, and as political correctness and a Cultural Marxist rendition of Big Brother becomes ever more deeply entrenched. There’s an old joke in libertarian circles: “A conservative may be a liberal who’s been mugged, but a libertarian is a conservative who’s been arrested.” What we need to do is find a way to start producing more “reluctant anarchists” of the Joe Sobran model, i.e. former “movement conservatives” turned mainstream libertarians turned anarchists.

    Jim,

    “Why would you want to go to a tea party when it’s clear that a rope party is what is called for? ”

    One step at a time.

    James,

    “Another source of left/right agreement on goals if not motives might lie with the more “libertarian” or Randian economic types. Again, there might not be much agreement domestically [unions, minimum wage, etc.] ”

    One of the reasons I’m a big fan of newer movements like National-Anarchism and Neo-Secessionism is that these are open-ended enough philosophies to include a huge divergence in perspectives about economics, cultural matters and lots of other things. A populist mass movement oriented towards gaining political preeminence at the local level would be capable of accommodating these kinds of differences to a great degree.

    “Paul Craig Roberts, for example was a Reagan Treasury official and still defends tax cuts, but has been more outspoken than almost anyone on the Left about both the cost of Empire and the domestic security state. He’s one of the few people who regularly appears both at CounterPunch as well as Vdare.”

    Roberts is by far the best dissident writer out there today with any kind of mainstream audience. The only comparable person on the Left might be Nader.

    Peter,

    “However, as stated, that was action, all I’ve seen from these people are words.”

    Whatever criticisms could reasonably be made of the Tea Partiers, their actions are a tiny step in the right direction. Remember, for instance, that Rothbard’s radical anarcho-libertarian movement in the late 60s included no small number of people who had been Goldwater Republicans a few years earlier.

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