Episode 262 with Matt Bernstein
We feel like we genuinely covered it all this week! From Trump’s “disaster capitalism” to the Democratic response to ICE terrorism, plus a spotlight on the right-wing influencer space from Candace Owens to Charlie Kirk and his death, Matt Bernstein of A Bit Fruity podcast llwas the perfect guest to have on this week and we think you’ll enjoy his insight in our lively discussion. Watch below:
Andrew Tate and Clavicular at the club, singing Kanye’s “Heil Hitler” on the way… we’re calling it the right-wing freakosphere, and its gross, mask-off embrace of fascist culture needs to be studied so it can be eradicated. Part of the glimmer of hope we talk about is that these alliances prove temporary as the political situation quickly evolves. These people are, as we point out, going for the furthest possible level of performative evil they can reach together. And that’s scary and incredibly toxic for our society given their large followings. Matt points out that Tate doesn’t even look fully sold on the disgusting behavior he’s buying into, and he links it to a larger meltdown in the right-wing influencer ecosystem. That space is fracturing right now in a fascinating way. Clavicular is, for example, different from the Candace Owens type of antisemitic conspiracy theorist. Then there’s the whole TPUSA Charlie Kirk brand of more traditional conservatism. These factions are increasingly running afoul of each other and can’t find totally common ground.
These right-wing influencers’ public displays are absolutely linked to hatefulness and the desire to oppress entire groups of people right-wingers view as subhuman, and also, they’re not all based in the exact same ideological tendencies. We think about how the point has often been to “trigger the libs,” and the more triggering the actions and words are, the more fascist salutes and insanely evil statements happen on camera, the more these people have fulfilled their goal. We’re seeing that these people increasingly aren’t putting limits on what they’re willing to say and that they actually feel more and more emboldened (and platformed) when it comes to testing those limits as much as they can. It’s pretty depressing to watch all of this play out among the state-run terror Trump is raining down on American communities like Minneapolis, where literal five-year-old children are being put in concentration camps. Fuck all of this. We need to dismantle the platforms these people have, to radicalize their followers against violence and fascism, and to take away the power the right-wing influencer world has to rot our society.
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