Alexander Markovics and Constantin von Hoffmeister talk about multipolarity, nationalism vs traditionalism, empire vs nation, the notion of a Reichsvolk (imperial people), liberalism 1.0 vs liberalism 2.0, West 1 vs West 2, Spengler’s prediction regarding Russia and the West, Russia’s conservative revolution, the impact of Trump’s potential reelection on America and the West’s future, and other topics.