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The System Is the Real Cause of Blame

By Troy Southgate

Those of you who are genuinely opposed to injustice, regardless whether you think Blacks get a worse deal than Whites or vice versa, might like to set your emotions to one side for a moment and think about the following. The mass protests organised by Black Lives Matter are two steps removed from what should really become the focus of public outrage. Let’s take it one stage at a time:
1. The RACE issue is irrelevant because it has not been established that George Floyd was killed for racist motives and police violence is directed at people of all colours and creeds.
2. The POLICE are not the ultimate source of blame as they are mercenaries who are answerable to the State.
3. The SYSTEM is the real cause of blame and those in the banks, boardrooms and stock exchanges are using your taxes to fund the politicians, bureaucrats, soldiers and police who enforce tyranny on their behalf.

The idea that these career parasites are deliberately targetting one race more than another is ludicrous, we have all been slaves at one time or another and there is little difference between an African person who is transported on a slave-ship and the European who is hung for stealing a loaf of bread, forced to work underground in cramped conditions, abused in a brothel or confined to a mental institution.
The silence from controlled opposition movements like Black Lives Matter and Antifa on issues such as usury should be enough to remind you that nothing but the collapse of capitalism will free us from the imposition of financial enslavement and the token removal of statues or list of hollow ‘victories’ such as positive discrimination, political correctness, safe spaces, interfaith religion, kneeling at sporting events, wheelchair ramps and modified bathroom signs are purely reformist and the ruling class is more than happy to tolerate such things if it means keeping its hands on the wealth. The same goes for the reactionary Right, which heaps praise on capitalist leaders who tighten up on immigration or who utter a few religious platitudes and yet conveniently avoid the issue of capital. Let’s stop beating around the bush and start getting down to the nitty-gritty.

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    • It is overwhelmingly clear that the consensus of the ruling class is in favor of cooptation rather than actual repression of the insurrection. The state and the capitalist class are acting in collusion with the usual suspects among the opportunistic sectors of the middle class and the totalitarian Left. The objective is to exploit the race angle in order to deflect attention away from state and capital itself, and turn a potential war against politicians, corporations and banksters into a war against statues and abstractions, and fueling inter-tribal conflict while promulgating absolutely fraudulent concepts like “Defund the Police” which will, in reality, involve the creation of larger police forces (Camden, NJ), social worker cops (Scandinavia), the wider use of private mercenary police by oligarchs (Latin America), the increased federalization of law enforcement and expansion of the federal alphabet soup agencies (notice, for example, how the FBI has been reinvented as heroes among respectable liberal opinion during the Trump era). And the problem with CHAZ/CHOP is not that it is “too radical” but not radical enough. CHAZ/CHOP needs to be come Cheran, and there needs to be many Cherans.

  1. The underclass in general is the target of police repression, and in the US a variety of socio-economic factors result in African Americans making up a disproportionate percentage of the underclass. There is a racial component to this issue if you just look at the statistics of who gets killed by the police. African Americans and Native Americans are grossly over represented in police killings and daily assault. Some white nationalists and other racists will argue that this is because these populations commit more crimes. I would argue that this is because the justice system has been shaped as a tool to specifically criminalize these populations. Troy may not be quite as informed about the history of America and race. Yes, all peoples have been targets of the system at one point or another, but in America blacks have been disproportionately targeted. An examination of laws from the local level on up to the national level in the US shows this trend very clearly.

    As a result of the above, the police are a legitimate target for underclass rage. It wasn’t white anarchists who burned the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct (though they helped.) It was an angry mob of lower class black and brown people who attacked and burned an enemy outpost. I’m wondering, does this offend you, Troy? Anarchists everywhere should celebrate the the sacking of a cop shop. Among the 10 core demographics of pan-secession as identified by Keith on this very site are:

    4. The Urban Underclass: Expect no revolution without gaining the support of this class. To win, we must control the major cities, and we do that by gaining the support of this class.

    9. Lower class members of the traditional outgroups and/or left-wing constituent groups.

    I’ve seen far too many National Anarchists, libertarians and an-caps speak out against this underclass revolt. I think it’s fine to criticize the obvious progressive-liberal co-optation of the movement, but to deny the racial component of police state repression in the US is to put on blinders. Don’t fork the insurgency. If nothing else just enjoy the show. I’ll close by adding this: when white people riot and burn cop shops when one of theirs is murdered I’ll be out there dancing on top of burned out police cruisers with you all, if you’ll have me.

    • If you would be “dancing in the street” if white people riot, wouldn’t that indicate that race is NOT the core issue here? By continuing to focus solely on “black and brown” issues, and calling anyone who tries to speak about more systematic problems “white nationalists and racists” it is YOU who is “forking” the insurgency. EVERYDAY all colors of people are getting killed by police! Take your blinders off! Without the support of the non-urban lower-classes (who also get shot by cops) you get nothing except your own oppression Olympic gold metal.

      • Okay cry baby go fucking riot and I’ll join you. I catch flak from people like you for supporting people of color in the face of police state violence. I also catch flak from my own people for supporting Ammon Bundy-types when they face off with the feds. Fact is that the white underclass are not the ones burning cop shops right now. I am following the lead of the people who are directly and physically engaging against the system, and it’s clear that with this movement that there is a racial component.

        • Who’s crying about catching flak? Maybe try not calling your allies racist at every smallest opportunity.

        • I also catch flak from my own people for supporting Ammon Bundy-types when they face off with the feds.

          Yes, that’s extremely important. Stand with all enemies of the state from Quaker peacenicks doing civi disobedience to death row inmates. The defeat of the US military industrial complex can ultimately only be achieved through what would amount to a “human wave” attack through mass non-compliance and defection.

          Fact is that the white underclass are not the ones burning cop shops right now.

          Yep, ‘dem crackers need to start burning. Although one problem with the white underclass is that they’re more likely to be located in rural areas, smaller towns, and outlying areas, although there are concentrated pockets of them in inner-cities as well. They have plenty of conflicts with the pigs as well, but it’s often not as immediately visible on a systemic level as it is with urban blacks, except for certain areas.

    • You can talk all you like about ‘racists’ citing higher percentages of black urban crime but it happens to be true. Blacks should run their own areas and be responsible for their own law enforcement, whatever shape or form that would take. But as someone who has resided in 3 different large U.S. urban areas over his lifetime, denial of obvious disproportionate black urban crime won’t help your argument here.

      • African-American males are about 6% of the US population and commit over 50% of all criminal homicides, with most of the victims being other blacks. Obviously, that’s a problem, particularly for blacks. But a big question is what is the reason for this statistic? The social science data shows that the primary indicator/predictor for violent crime rates along racial lines is family dysfunction: https://randomcriticalanalysis.com/2015/11/16/racial-differences-in-homicide-rates-are-poorly-explained-by-economics/

        But that raises the question of why is there so much family dysfunction? https://c4ss.org/content/37646 Liberal and left opinion argues that past and/or present oppression, etc. is the obvious cause. Libertarians will typically blame incentives provided by the welfare state, combined with mass incarceration of black males under the “war on drugs,” along with denial of opportunities for economic self-sufficiency, housing costs resulting from zoning regulations, etc. Conservatives blame family dysfunction, along with a supposed lack of religiosity, “culture of dependency,” lack of “middle class values,” etc. WNs and the far-right blame differentials in IQ scores.

        But one thing that gets lost in these debates is the huge class differences that exist among blacks. Most of the emphasis is on the disproportional concentration of blacks in the lower classes. That obviously exists as well, but a case could be made that that class polarization among blacks is just as extreme. I’ve heard some black conservatives like Larry Elder claim that if black Americans were an independent nation they would be in the top 15 or so wealthiest nations in the world. Critics of this position have argued that it’s a misreading of the economic data and that black Americans are closer to being around 45th in the world when compared to actual countries. That’s a bid difference although 45th is still comparable to most southern European countries like Portugal which is still “First World” and pretty good by world standards.

        However, the data also shows that the class differences between black Americans are very extreme. The poverty rate is comparable to that of Iraq, the media household income is comparable to the Palestinian territories, the unemployment is on sub-Saharan African levels and the incarceration rate is probably on North Korean levels. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/10/what-if-black-america-were-a-country/380953/

        I’ve heard some black conservatives like Walter Williams says these problems seem to impact mostly the bottom 20% of black Americans which I tend to believe merely based on experience of knowing a whole lot of blacks from difference class backgrounds. I think one thing that rarely gets point out is that while the civil rights revolution obviously benefited most blacks and the position of most blacks has improved since civil rights, a negative side effect was that the lower classes among blacks were subsequently cut off from the organic black culture that existed prior to civil rights, and which transcended class differences. At the same time, de-industrialization of the cities was taking place which greatly expanded black unemployment rates, with industrial employment being replaced with the welfare state and the illegal market economy. https://www.amazon.com/Origins-Urban-Crisis-International-Perspectives/dp/0691121869 Hence, a lot of the problems conservatives and libertarians complain about.

    • Troy may not be quite as informed about the history of America and race. Yes, all peoples have been targets of the system at one point or another, but in America blacks have been disproportionately targeted. An examination of laws from the local level on up to the national level in the US shows this trend very clearly.

      In Europe, everything is about class, which is not surprising considering those are historically royal/feudal societies that tended to be comparatively homogeneous on a cultural level. The USA was founded by the English bourgeoisie, so it’s always had a comparatively middle class orientation, and the USA has always been a fundamentally tri-racial state consisting of Europeans, Africans, and Natives. Even under the Brave New World of the European Union, class distinctions are very visible in Europe. It could be argued that’s changed a bit in recent decades with the arrival of new migrant populations, but I’d say the dynamics of that are more comparable to the arrival of new migrants in the US in the 19th and early 20th centuries, i.e. seemingly exotic newcomers pushing supposed subversive ideologies. Only instead of Southern and Eastern Europeans allegedly pushing papism or communism, it’s Arabs and Africans pushing Islamism. This is something of an oversimplification but I think it works as a rough analogy.

      But I’d say the US is more like a hybrid of Europe and Latin America than Europe alone. Latin America was colonized by the Spanish and Portuguese Empires and their systems, which tended to be comparatively more reactionary, were replicated in Latin America. The US was founded by the English Protestant middle classes, which were the “left” of the early modern period. But the US was still a colonial/settler state. It didn’t replicate European feudal class distinctions on the same level as was done in Latin America, but the feudal class system was replaced with a racial caste system. The same racial hierarchies were imposed in Latin America, of course, but the native populations combined with the black slaves populations tended to be larger and harder to segregate from the European laborer classes. For instance, in Brazil the lower classes tend to be much more racially integrated.

      Even today, the class disparities in the US are more comparable to Latin America than Europe, where the traditional elites tend to have a sense of “noblesse oblige” (hence, the larger European social safety net). And America has the legacy of the racial caste system built into its class system. In fact, I’d argue the racial caste system, at least historically, makes the US more comparable to India in certain ways. Ordinary laborers of European ancestry are still included under the “white” umbrella, which makes them very roughly analogous to the Shudras, who are still considered “caste people” even if they are on the bottom layer. But in the Hindu caste system Dalits and the indigenous people of the Indian subcontinent (like the Adivasis) are considered “below caste” or “non-caste” in status, which I would say is roughly analogous to the historic status of blacks and Native Americans in the US system.

      As a result of the above, the police are a legitimate target for underclass rage. It wasn’t white anarchists who burned the Minneapolis 3rd Precinct (though they helped.) It was an angry mob of lower class black and brown people who attacked and burned an enemy outpost.

      Yes. As I have always argued, while anarchist revolution is a trans-class activity, the lumpenpoletariat, particularly the urban lumpenproletariat, are the “vanguard.” My theory was apparently correct because that is how the present situation has played out.

      4. The Urban Underclass: Expect no revolution without gaining the support of this class. To win, we must control the major cities, and we do that by gaining the support of this class.

      9. Lower class members of the traditional outgroups and/or left-wing constituent groups.

      Yes, it’s interesting to see that unfolding, at least on a limited basis.

      I’ve seen far too many National Anarchists, libertarians and an-caps speak out against this underclass revolt.

      Some libertarians and an-caps are Burkeans who look askance at violent revolution, preferring a gradualist, pacifist, or reformist approach (which makes them not much different from Proudhon or Tolstoy). Others are very sympathetic to the petite bourgeoisie (or are petite bourgeoisie), not to mention their emphasis on private property rights, which makes them hostile to looters, vandals, or rioters in some instances. I would agree that some of the inter-class conflict between the lower to lower-middle classes has been regrettable, such as the lumpenproletariat vs the conventional proletariat or petite bourgeoisie. Of course, a lot of libertarians are middle class people who dislike disorder. They’re no different from ordinary liberals or conservatives in that sense.

      A lot of Americans who identify as N-A are “historicists” in the sense of regarding historic Americana or even the Confederacy as part of their ancestral or tribal heritage. For instance, for a lot of working class whites the Confederate flag is merely a generic symbol of rebellion (ironically, like the circle A anarchy symbol for many people) rather than a political/racial symbol (although it obviously means that to some people as well). A lot of European N-As seem to have a similar view of indigenous European cultures or historical periods like the Middle Ages or the Vikings or whatever.

      I tend to view all of these things the way I view differences in terms of sports teams, youth subcultures, music cultures, entertainment franchises, church denominations, etc. Although not everyone feels that way obviously. But when it comes to different political sects and cultural “tribes” I pretty much take whatever I can get in terms of political sympathizers. For instance, I know conservatives who tell me they disagree with most of my views but have no problem with their individual county or town becoming an independent shire, village, or city-state. To which I’m usually inclined to day good enough.

      when white people riot and burn cop shops when one of theirs is murdered I’ll be out there dancing on top of burned out police cruisers

      Maybe this gives new meaning to the stereotype that “white people can’t dance,” lol.

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