Beyond Social Justice

A discussion with Ian Mayes, Nexus X Humectress, and Keith Preston about how social justice activism has led anarchist movements astray and lots of other stuff.

Topics include:

  • Anarcho-pacifism
  • Intentional communities
  • Beyond Social Justice: how historical opposition to valid injustices has now evolved into something absurd.
  • How totalitarian humanism’s focus on privilege and microaggressions forestalls social revolution.
  • Is feminism necessary in the West?
  • Radical gender equality.
  • How the men’s rights movement fits the dictionary definition of feminism.
  • MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way, the new subculture of anti-marriage relationship nihilists.
  • No “hope” for revolution.
  • “Anarchist” as an identity.

Ian Mayes is a past member of Twin Oaks Community (part of the Federation of Egalitarian Communities), and a past member of Camphill Soltane (part of the Camphill Movement), and he’s been involved with the anarchist movement for almost 20 years.

Nexus is a past member of Twin Oaks Community (part of the Federation of Egalitarian Communities) and other intentional communites. He was brainwashed into political correctness in 1990, but has learned the error of his ways. He’s been involved in anarchism for 24 years. Nexus is interested in radical gender equality.

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  1. This is why the Empire loves the leftist social values:

    “As to (2) tyrannies, they are preserved in two most opposite ways. One of them is the old traditional method in which most tyrants administer their government. Of such arts Periander of Corinth is said to have been the great master, and many similar devices may be gathered from the Persians in the administration of their government. There are firstly the prescriptions mentioned some distance back, for the preservation of a tyranny, in so far as this is possible; viz., that the tyrant should lop off those who are too high; he must put to death men of spirit; he must not allow common meals, clubs, education, and the like; he must be upon his guard against anything which is likely to inspire either courage or confidence among his subjects; he must prohibit literary assemblies or other meetings for discussion, and he must take every means to prevent people from knowing one another (for acquaintance begets mutual confidence). Further, he must compel all persons staying in the city to appear in public and live at his gates; then he will know what they are doing: if they are always kept under, they will learn to be humble. In short, he should practice these and the like Persian and barbaric arts, which all have the same object. A tyrant should also endeavor to know what each of his subjects says or does, and should employ spies, like the ‘female detectives’ at Syracuse, and the eavesdroppers whom Hiero was in the habit of sending to any place of resort or meeting; for the fear of informers prevents people from speaking their minds, and if they do, they are more easily found out. Another art of the tyrant is to sow quarrels among the citizens; friends should be embroiled with friends, the people with the notables, and the rich with one another. Also he should impoverish his subjects; he thus provides against the maintenance of a guard by the citizen and the people, having to keep hard at work, are prevented from conspiring. The Pyramids of Egypt afford an example of this policy; also the offerings of the family of Cypselus, and the building of the temple of Olympian Zeus by the Peisistratidae, and the great Polycratean monuments at Samos; all these works were alike intended to occupy the people and keep them poor. Another practice of tyrants is to multiply taxes, after the manner of Dionysius at Syracuse, who contrived that within five years his subjects should bring into the treasury their whole property. The tyrant is also fond of making war in order that his subjects may have something to do and be always in want of a leader. And whereas the power of a king is preserved by his friends, the characteristic of a tyrant is to distrust his friends, because he knows that all men want to overthrow him, and they above all have the power.

    Again, the evil practices of the last and worst form of democracy are all found in tyrannies. Such are the power given to women in their families in the hope that they will inform against their husbands, and the license which is allowed to slaves in order that they may betray their masters; for slaves and women do not conspire against tyrants; and they are of course friendly to tyrannies and also to democracies, since under them they have a good time. For the people too would fain be a monarch, and therefore by them, as well as by the tyrant, the flatterer is held in honor; in democracies he is the demagogue; and the tyrant also has those who associate with him in a humble spirit, which is a work of flattery. ”

    Aristotle Politics Book V Chapter XI

  2. Hey, what do you guys think of this?

    It’s the collected writings of Randolph Bourne, specifically the essay The Disillusionment, starting on p. 396(there’s a hyperlink), at the paragraph that starts, “They told us that war was becoming physically impossible” The Entitled Opinions podcast(which I highly recommend) began their new season with a, hour-long discussion of this particular essay, and I wondered if it might have some relation to this episode, particularly in the way Bourne describes everyone’s expectations of the liberal society he had so much faith in before WWI. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

  3. Aristotle was representing Axial Patriarchy (farming and city life), which was a “law and order” paradigm that developed in response to the horrors, such as widespread violence, that came about at the end of magic, matriarchal religion, nomadic hunting/gathering and shepherding, as new metals and weapons made tribal war against agrarian settlements attractive.

  4. “He was brainwashed into political correctness in 1990, but has learned the error of his ways” He used to be a useful idiot, now he’s a useless idiot LOL

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