Electoralism/Democratism

Trump’s Triumph: Billionaire Blowhard Exposes Fake Political System

By Mike Whitney

The Unz Review

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Last night’s FOX News GOP Presidential Debate Extravaganza featured the most riveting two minute political exchange ever heard on national television. During a brief colloquy between Republican frontrunner Donald Trump and Fox moderator Brett Baier, the pugnacious casino magnate revealed the appalling truth about the American political system, that the big money guys like Trump own the whole crooked contraption lock, stock, and barrel, and that, the nation’s fake political leaders do whatever they’re told to do. Without question, it was most illuminating commentary to ever cross the airwaves. Here’s the entire exchange direct from the transcript:

FOX News Brett Baier (talking to Trump): Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?

TRUMP: As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.

What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. I have a big company with thousands and thousands of employees. And if I’m negotiating in New York or in New Jersey or in California, I have like one bidder. Nobody can bid.

You know why?

Because the insurance companies are making a fortune because they have control of the politicians, of course, with the exception of the politicians on this stage. (uneasy laughter) But they have total control of the politicians. They’re making a fortune.

Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have…yourself great plans…

BAIER: Mr. Trump, it’s not just your past support for single-payer health care. You’ve also supported a host of other liberal policies….You’ve also donated to several Democratic candidates, Hillary Clinton included, and Nancy Pelosi. You explained away those donations saying you did that to get business-related favors. And you said recently, quote, “When you give, they do whatever the hell you want them to do.”

TRUMP: You’d better believe it.

BAIER: — they do?

TRUMP: If I ask them, if I need them, you know, most of the people on this stage I’ve given to, just so you understand, a lot of money.

TRUMP: I will tell you that our system is broken. I gave to many people, before this, before two months ago, I was a businessman. I give to everybody. When they call, I give. And do you know what? When I need something from them two years later, three years later, I call them, they are there for me. And that’s a broken system.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What did you get from Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi?

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  1. I disagree Trump, mainly of Trade. If you put a 35 percent tariff on other countries, guess what many European and Asian companies have factories in the US particularly the south they would pull out. When I pointed this out to the left they said stop blaming immirgrants about the housing crash I didn’t mention illegal immirgrants maybe they have read something by me that stated in 10 years automation may get rid of many low skilled jobs. There is now a robot called Hadrian that does construction work which means Mexico and Central Labors will be less needed. Also, farming is going high tech with sensors. Why, is the left bring up immigration when I mention that Trump unlike Rand is trying to use tariffs to make certain Joe Blow has the old factory work when I would say that Ayn Rand would tell them to worked for Urber or Lyft if the factory worked went overseas this is different than Trump. All the left can say Trump is a liar maybe Trump like Sanders changed his mind on Trade. Sanders is also anti-free trade but all the left can do is say Trump and Rand make nasty remarks about Minorities. In fact the Trade ideas of Trump and Sanders are not going to work since all countries have some manufacturing from another country like a Chinese company owns Volvo. The left and right are obsessed with race for different reasons. Trump wants to boot out every Mexican which doesn’t work unless there is a national data based that shows the dates of their visa card while the left thinks that Mexico and the Central American countries are always going to be poorer than the US, so we should take them in. Mexico subsides Housing and healthcare even if they pay a lot less, something the left never thinks and people like Trump never think that even if Mexicans are pay less than Americans the foreign car companies are building up an industrial based which means in the future less Mexicans wanting to come to the US.

  2. I dont like Trump any more than the next person but he shoots “straight from the hip ” even if his answers are not what “society ” wants to hear .But most American voters see in him as “old America ” when cowboys ruled the range and that clicks with many ordinary voters .He is like a breath of fresh air blow PC and all other hangups stopping honest expression of your thoughts ,on that basis he is more acceptable than many putting themselves forward for nomination.

  3. “Ultimately, contrary to what Susan Sontag thinks, only intellectuals believe in the ascendancy of meaning; ‘people’ believe only in the ascendancy of signs. They long ago said goodbye to reality. They have gone over, body and soul, to the spectacular.”

    -THE INTELLIGENCE OF EVIL
    Jean Baudrillard,

    One can faintly hear the diabolical laughter of P T Barnum filtering up from the depths of hell as America looks over the choice of Jeb or Hillary or Trump, and the thing is, Trump is entertaining. Trump is the spectacle. And we haven’t already seen this one fifteen times. Even if you absolutely hate Trump he is more fun than the suicide inducing boredom of Clinton vs Bush.

    He will make the Sale.

    Those who underestimate him ignore the depth of the popular hatred of the political class as a whole. The more he attacks that class (and its sacred cows), the more popular he will become. Ross Perot (who had none of Trump’s mastery of the media) tapped into the same vein and had a third of the country behind him at one point. Popular hatred of the political class has grown by orders magnitude since then. With another Clinton vs. Bush election looming this hatred is on a slow boil.

    Obama is already leaking Hillary’s Syrian Jihad in order to throw her under the bus for ISIS and thus prevent a Clinton restoration within the Democratic Party. (I doubt he even cares who else wins as long as it isn’t Hillary.) In addition the RNC has a file full of X rated Bill scandals that they won’t drop until Hillary gets the nomination. A socialist is gaining on her in the polls, and as ever she is about as fun and exciting as a visit to the colon doctor.

    Jeb Bush is everything conservatives hate about the Republican party in one smarmy little sissy-boy package. The only argument in his favor is that he is “more electable”. How long does that argument survive being consistently behind Donald Trump in the polls? Are the conservatives who were convinced to support McCain and Romney because they were “more electable” going to fall for that a third time, after losing twice in a row? You can only force yourself to swallow so many toads before you puke them all up.

    We can only dimly speculate what would actually happen if Donald Trump was to win the presidency, but it is a safe bet that it would be a spectacular, brutally humiliating, and highly entertaining disaster for the whole political class. Donald Trump is the Rob Ford phenomenon with a media machine billionaire instead of a drunken drug gangster, and the leadership of the free world is the prize.

    As a Donald Trump Presidency is a black swan event it has truly unknown destabilization potential. All those desperately searching for the escape hatch (or the self-destruct switch), and all those who would just like to completely desecrate the Presidency of the United States should fanatically support Trump, not as a “Leader” but as a weapon of mass psychological destruction aimed squarely at the already crumbling legitimacy of the ruling class and indeed the whole system.

    Voting for Trump is the most obnoxious possible way for the American People to say “You’re Fired!” to our widely despised political class, and it follows a perfect neo-liberal logic: liquidate the useless middlemen. Fire the politicians who openly work for the super rich, and elect the super rich directly instead.

    No doubt it is a leap into the Abyss, but what if you are 100% guaranteed to take Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush with you? And all their apparatchiks! For one low price! How do the houses of Bush and Clinton actually survive losing to a reality television star? We will survive the Abyss. We will survive Trump. They won’t.

    Cut that fucking “rope over the Abyss” already, and get it over with.

    “We shall never get back beyond that blind spot, that unlocatable point where the real ceased to be real…

    It is in the Virtual that we have the ultimate predator and plunderer of reality, secreted by reality itself as a kind of self destructive viral agent”

    -THE INTELLIGENCE OF EVIL
    Jean Baudrillard,

    Trump has always been a highly post modern phenomenon: super rich because he is famous, famous because he is super rich…a virtual serpent swallowing his own tail. Does he even exist beyond the camera? How would it even matter if he didn’t? What he understands (and is about to demonstrate) is that there is no longer any separation between reality and television.

    The Reality Television Fox News Troll will now simply walk from one set of television studios to another, and become the leader of the free world. This is the final transition point into a truly post-modern political order in which the line between reality and television is not just transgressed, but finally and completely gone, over, perhaps even unthinkable.

    It is theorized that the final assimilation by the Spectacle of everything is exactly the point of its total self immolation and collapse. This final inversion has long been predicted by the most ancient of sacred traditions and the most sophisticated of avant-garde French drug addicts. Is this not what the opening event of the American Apocalypse would actually look like?

    So America is lurching over in its fatty-wheelchair for some Soda, but it doesn’t want the two big brands (OMG it is so bored with them) and the whole shelf of lame store brands don’t entice it. And then lurks down the aisle something deeply uncanny (and very, very sinister), a pure avatar of the spectacle. He has some new crack for sale, and he even takes food stamps…and OMG he is from TV!

    He will make the Sale.

    The spectacle has taken over everything. Now reality television will assimilate the presidency into a pure entertainment product. This ontological shift will usher in a new order of being… perhaps this is the singularity…in any case alienation will be reified by the inversion of digitally encrypted exchange value and Donald Trump will have the nuclear suitcase.

    He is a character straight out a Philip K Dick novel.

    And so now are we…

    You get the Radical Subject that you deserve.

    • excellent summation ! I put a very shortened version on another website and thanks for the email didnt know you existed up to now . As a Scot I cant stand Donald even though he is half-Scottish BUT what is he up against people who dont have the US,s well being at heart but money and being “ruled ” by a foreign country (to its undying shame ) I look for the American pioneering spirit the fight of the 99 % to make a country good . AS it stands America is being destroyed in spirit and soul ,yes Donald is a showman -big mouth etc BUT he stands head and shoulders above above those with less integrity and he isnt for war-war-war just to please big business and another country to me he is much more for good than bad and in 2015 that means a lot !

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