Religion and Philosophy

Same Wine, Different Bottle

“The historical record is pretty clear that during the medieval period and even later Protestants, Catholics, and Muslims all engaged in fairly extensive persecutions of their sectarian opponents. In fact, the same thing still happens today in states where religion and politics have not been separated. Much of the Christian world in the pre-modern era wasn’t much different from what you find in places like Saudi Arabia today. In African Christianity, you still have witch burnings, executions of ‘sodomites,’ and the like.

It’s also true that when the religions were eclipsed by the rise of secular Enlightenment thinking, religious persecution gave way to persecutions in the name of secular ideologies. The French revolutionaries, their “cult of reason,” and their de facto Catholic genocide (which matched the earlier French Catholic genocide of the Huguenots) is an early example. Nietzsche said in the 19th century that the 20th century would be a time of wars between secular ideologies just like the seventeenth century had seen the wars between contending religions, and he was right. 20th century totalitarian ideologies had all the trappings of a religious cult. Some of them persecuted religions as well. In fact, they still do in places like China and North Korea.”

-Keith Preston

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  1. ” Nietzsche said in the 19th century that the 20th century would be a time of wars between secular ideologies just like the seventeenth century had seen the wars between contending religions, and he was right. ”

    Do you know where Nietzsche said that?

    • This is a relevant Nietzsche quote on that topic:

      ““The concept of politics has been completely subsumed in a Geisterkrieg, all understandings of power have been blown up into the air—there will be wars the like of which none has ever been on earth.”

      I don’t recall the exact source of the quote from Nietzsche. I first found it in an interpretive work by Tracy Strong.

  2. “In African Christianity, you still have witch burnings, executions of ‘sodomites,’ and the like.”

    Yes and the West and the Former Soviet Block and PRC have abortions? The point? What would you call a process that over say 40 years in the US killed 50 million people and in Russia in about 70 years killed 300 million people and in China over 50 years 300 million people? A certain word comes to mind. Genocide anyone?

    Seems to fit this:

    (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
    (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group

    http://www.hrweb.org/legal/genocide.html

    I guess by its own definition the UN is the greatest genocidal organization in history.

    • “I guess by its own definition the UN is the greatest genocidal organization in history.”

      Sure it is. What is the UN but an assembly of states, i.e, institutions of mass murder?

  3. “yeah that to.”

    May be could say that Hitler and Hirohito had the decesny to not be apart of the League of Nations?

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