Armed Revolution Possible and Not So Difficult 67

ARMED REVOLUTION POSSIBLE AND NOT SO DIFFICULT
By Bill Bridgewater

The only “newsies” that I have ever met that I didn’t believe wasted oxygen by breathing were Dickey Chappell and Bernie Fall, both of whom were killed in Viet Nam because they believed that you couldn’t report battles in the field from a bar in Saigon.

It is not easy to admit that a newsie stopped me cold the other day in the middle of one of their silly interviews. He had asked me to enumerate the reasons that I believed to be valid to support the private ownership of firearms.

We did not disagree over personal protection; he even admitted that hunting is legal in every state. But, when I stated that I believed that the founding fathers intended that we be armed against the possibility of our own central government overstepping its bounds, he quite bluntly asked me if I thought that an armed American citizenry had a snowball’s chance in hell in an uprising against our own federal government.

Now, when was the last time you put some really serious thought into that proposition? Not counting the slaughter of the American Indians, we have not seen a serious effort to pit Americans against Americans since the end of the War Between the States that ended 130 years ago.

Is there even a shred of possibility that an armed citizenry could succeed against the strongest military power on Earth today?

Perhaps we should review the years 1960-1975 again. The United States blindly stuck its oar in the muddied waters of Viet Nam very shortly after the French got their heads handed to them on a platter and were invited not to be a colonial power in Viet Nam any more.

Finally, we found ourselves in the position of guaranteeing the survival of an independent South Viet Nam when the Northern part of the country made it clear that they were interested in reuniting the country under their particular brand of socialism.

For a decade and a half, we changed the leadership of South Viet Nam quite regularly; increased the pressure on the Johnson thumbscrews; bombed, quit, bombed, quit, ad infinitum; quantified the war; and finally turned it into an electronic war. At home we kept telling the citizens that we were just about to win decisively and elected another president to drive crazy with this goofy little war.

Finally the president declared that all was over and the troops could come home.

But they did not return home in triumph with the bugles blaring. They came home with their tails between their legs just like every other defeated army in the history of the world. And the reason that they did so, my friends, was that the world’s most powerful nation got its backside severely whipped by a small, backward, agrarian nation who started the war against us with an assortment of ancient bolt-action rifles, no lines of support, no manufacturing base, and no infrastructure that the country absolutely depended upon.

It is not a joke that they made sandals from cut-up truck tires – it’s the truth. They fought the only kind of war they could hope to fight and win successfully – a guerrilla war.

They had two good models: the American colonies against the British in our war for independence, and the American Indian wars, where the value of slash-and-run against a superior foe was escalated to a fine art by the world’s finest light cavalry.

Twice the North Vietnamese allowed themselves to be suckered into main force set-piece battles, and they got cut into ribbons for doing it. Otherwise, they stuck to General Giap’s plan of guerrilla warfare to the finish.

The North finally *did* get to mass their troops and tanks during their final sweep to victory into Saigon.

Why did this happen? Why did the world’s most powerful nation get its teeth kicked in and sent home in disgrace? Because we forgot our very own origins! We forgot that we were the ones who hid behind logs, berms, and bushes and shot British troops and their mercenaries as *targets of opportunity* while denying our opponents a target of any kind.

We used the skills of the mountain and plains Indians against an Army that was trained in only one form of combat. We refused to engage in the British methods of combat until we had superior forces and the odds were highly in our favor.

General Vo Nuyen Giap did exactly the same thing against us in the 1960s and 1970s while we used our superior firepower and technology to create ten million deaf monkeys and water buffalo. We defoliated tens of thousands of acres of jungle forest to prove that Giap’s troops weren’t there. We constructed every kind of trap known to mankind to capture and destroy divisions of enemy troops where there weren’t any.

We very patiently fought a European theater-type of warfare against a steadfast foe who fought a completely different kind of war that simply made our complex weapons systems useless. By inflexibly insisting on doing it our way, we lost the whole shooting match to a man who played it his way and won.

Meanwhile, on the exact opposite side of the globe, another shooting match was gearing up that pitted the second most powerful nation in the world against an enemy whose armament consisted of ancient bolt-action rifles, who had no lines of support, no manufacturing base and no infrastructure that the nation depended upon.

Though the Russians were determined that *they* would not be sent home with their tails between their legs, the Afghans were paying particular attention to those tactics that had worked so well for General Giap against the American forces. Even with the advantage of being able to totally ignore world opinion and to essentially ignore the opinions of its own citizens, Russia followed us down the long winding trail to disgrace by doing exactly what we had done in Viet Nam.

High-ranking politicians (some of them in uniform), with absolutely no idea what was going on in the day-to-day conduct of both wars, made stupid decisions and then stuck by them despite advice to the contrary from both American and Russian on-scene commanders.

The Russian methods of combat – mass maneuver and firepower – that were developed against Napoleon and Hitler proved no more successful than our methods against an aggressively waged guerrilla war.

Both major enemies failed to fight the enemy that they faced. Both, in fact, fought an historical enemy who was not present on the field of battle. Both of these superior armies truly believed that superior strength and technical abilities would win the day. Both major armies believed that time was on their side and was working against their foe. Both were totally wrong because they underestimated the growing dislike of the supposedly neutral or “friendly” indigenous forces whose cities, villages, towns and homes were being destroyed by the ongoing flow of large-scale battles by the two major armies.

Whatever the levels of dispute between the Vietnamese, the American forces eventually became the common enemy simply because of the massive damage they were doing in behalf of the south. Exactly the same thing transpired in Afghanistan. The Russians became the common enemy and went home in defeat.

Our armed forces used everything in our weapons inventory in our effort to win except nuclear devices. So did the Russians. They even used some chemical weapons that we didn’t try.

What does all this have to do with the question the newsy asked me? Everything.

A revolution could be waged against the current American government far easier than you might imagine without careful examination. Consider:

* The sheer numbers of firearms of all kinds in the hands of the American public would have made the American commanders in Viet Nam quake in their boots. We’re not talking junk equipment here, either. The average deer hunter with a .270 or .308 could give a platoon of regular troops more grief than they want. There was a special on the tube recently about military armaments on sale in the black market (including Stingers).

* The population base from which revolutionaries could be recruited is *massive* – 250 million.

* There are literally millions of well-trained men who served as officers and NCOs who learned face-to-face how guerrilla warfare works. They haven’t forgotten it, either.

* There are millions of young men out there with military training and experience with weapons of every conceivable kind, who would make top-quality guerrilla troops.

* Every one of the 100 counties in the state of North Carolina could field at least one full company that would be formidable in capability. If one assumes that North Carolina is no more capable than other states, that could amount to 180 divisions. These potential rebel troops would be fast-moving light infantry, with the capability of melting into the general population when necessary.

American military leaders would be in the position of having an inventory of high-tech weapons that they would be dependent upon your son or nephew to use against you. There would be no enemy states in which you could say that any weapon could be used against the rebels. They would be from each and every state and major city.

By the same token, there would be no sanctuary for the federal troops anywhere in the land. No matter where stationed, they would be subject to attack and harassment. The infrastructure on which the federal government depends would be rather easily disrupted by those who live there. Airfields and major lines of communications could be shut down and kept down for days at a time. Disruption of supplies to major bases and to centers of government would be simple. You don’t have to cut them off, just keep them hungry.

The federal government would be denied the use of all their major weaponry because they would still “own” the cities and villages. How do you justify bombing your own city just because there is a rebel company in it? One bombing would be the biggest recruiting drive ever for the rebel forces.

Now just how powerful do those 12 Army divisions and those three Marine divisions really look to you? Just how scary is the Air Force against America? What will the Navy do, shell all coastal cities? I don’t think so.

One of these days a truly charismatic individual is going to walk out of the heartland of America and point out that the Declaration of Independence has never been repealed and that it *requires* all citizens to rise up against an oppressive government. With the current attitude toward our government and the people who populate it, a massive groundswell of support for throwing the current crop to the dogs and starting over again might not be so difficult.

As for the *ability* of the American citizens to successfully wage a guerrilla war on their own government, the likes of which this world has never seen nor contemplated before, I am absolutely convinced that it could be done, and a lot more swiftly than many might believe possible. How many highly-capable long-range snipers can your county put together?

Reprinted in “The Bullet Trap” by permission from Bill Bridgewater, “Alliance Voice”, August 1994

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  3. Right now we should be spending most of our time spreading propaganda rather that making war preparations.
    It is interesting to read though that Nathan Freir of the U.S. Army war college wrote on the subject of U.S. insurrection.
    That was around pg. 31-33 of his 2008 paper “Known Unknowns. “
    Lt. Col Freir posited that insurrection was then very unlikely but was a “Black Swan” possible event that needed to be looked at due to it’s sever implications.
    Freir came down on the side that the U.S. military would be both unwilling and unable to quell any serious uprising.

    • Goofy little war. Huh. In south East Asia American armed forced are responsive for the deaths of over 3 million human beings. You can take a guess at the wounded and te damage. If you fuckers were going to stage an armed uprising you would or should have done so already. You are a nation of Kapos.

    • This President is guilty of crimes against the Constitution which he swore to uphold. He needs to be Impeached and removed from office. The Congress is too corrupt to do the job. Congress and the President continue to spend us over a cliff. I see revolution as inevitable. The problem is how does own put the country back together (once enough liberals, socialists and communists are gone via flight or death) under the Constitution as it it was written.

      Congressmen have their own slush funds which are not taxable. Congress continues to buy and sell stock using insider info. They forgive their own tax cheats like Charlie Rangel. Nancy Pelosi’s daughter is a lobbyist. This President violates the Constitution on nearly a weekly basis. Federal employees owe the government hundreds of millions of dollars in back taxes.

      Obamacare was put in place over the wishes of the majority. In case on one has noticed the standard of living for many Americans has been driven back into the 1980′s. This President is a socialist/communist who hates this country. He has taken millions of jobs and even greater numbers of work hours from our work force. He has no problem with this.

      The Democrats and the President have no problem lying to the people of this country at every turn. The alone should be reason enough to violently remove them. The President and his (let them eat cake I mean vegetables) wife have spent ten of millions of our dollars on their private vacations. His wife has a staff of 21 or more when the average staff for the wife of the President is two. She is wasting millions on their salary. The President with his Czars which are not in the constitution are running the country into the ground.

      This President has a cult which thinks that any comments about the quality or lack there of is racist. He and the DemoNazis have more in common with the Nazi Part of pre-WWII Germany.

  4. 10 million citizens or more now own a weapon, many hunters that equate to being long range snipers would reek havoc on federal troops if they ever tried to take down our 2nd amendment or the 10th amendment. After the election where an unkown man like Obama was relected and most likely due to fraud would go against the constitution just to reach his goal of a subjegated, enslaved, beholden citizen to the Government! The pantywaist liberals would cower like cowardly skunks and lay down like sheep, but people like the veterans of the marines, army and airforce would fight and fight like no other people have fought bvefore. Don’t ever think American Citizens are not armed with high powered weapoins….. I don’t think we have to fear the Military, we have to be ready for the “Super Criminals” being created by Obama and Bush by allowing illegal Aliens tro cross our border and run wild on our citizens! 12 Citizens right here in the USA are murdered everyday by an Illegal Alien Criminal…… over 4,000 per year…..

  5. This is not just Americas problem, but the entire worlds. If just America is freed it is only a matter of time before it is infiltrated again. You would not only have the support of your own people but also many other citizens in other countries. Normal people who live under the shadow of criminal banking cartels and corrupt puppet governments. There are far more “have not” people than “have”, nearly 99% to 1%. Since the corrupt and wealthy start wars for money and do not personaly fight them, a victory for true freedom can easily be achieved. The key is to “remove” select institutions/individuals as well. In Americas case the Fedral Reserve needs to be wiped off the planet and those who OWN it. In Britian the monarchy needs to be abolished and in gereral all monarchies in Europe. In the worlds interests, all private banking corporations/media empires and those who OWN it need to be abolished. The current “western style” government system needs to be reformed, it is too easily corrupted. The larger religious institutions need to be reformed as they are really corporations corrupt like every other. This would be a good start and the new beginning our world sorely needs. There are a select few who rule the many. Most have been identified despite their efforts/propaganda. These people are not human and need to be demonised and publicly executed. There are very few real enemies of freedom, it’s just they have most of the money and media/propaganda. I would say power, but only a nations people truely have that and its time to use that power again.

  6. I have no idea what I’m talking about, but it seems incredibly arrogant, ignorant, and outright stupid to think that the Vietnamese based their guerrilla warfare tactics on the American revolution/ Indian wars. Sun Tzu, plus like 5 thousand years of Asian warfare i’m thinking….?

    • He was not saying they based it off of the british revolution he was simply saying it was the same type of war. If you have no idea what you are talking about you should study up than we can never have enough soldier’s on our side with a firey passion in their heart to over throw the government.

  7. Guess what…. this has happened in the past and the other countries are already prepared to deal with it. Remember Germany…. chances are that whatever you were taught, or believe to be true about the national socialist movement you are probably wrong or have bunk information. The numbers of dead in “internment camps” were created by the allied bombing of supply lines and factories…. Judea DID declare war on Germany first. BUT MY POINT…. remember a while ago… probably over 10 years by now. China had a complete internet blackout….. with that being said… every nation has the ability to cut off communications and transportation with ANY OTHER COUNTRY…. the best part of it…. THEY CAN CLAIM WERE THE ONES BOYCOTTING….. If there was an armed revolt and any change DID come its probably pre-arranged…. Then to the rest of the world we will start to be viewed as “isolationists”…. and the strange thing about nations that become “isolationists” (keep in mind the root word ISOLATION)… these nations are almost ALWAYS eventually accused of attempting GLOBAL DOMINATION…..

    The people behind this that created the cesspool we are currently living in are also responsible for exposing that same cesspool…… think about this topic and be prepared for what is inevitably coming….. population control. Seriously though, you need to start seeing how “they” plant the trees that “they” later chop down…… War is for control…. and that’s ultimately it. Think about it in ANY context. American Civil War…. Lets take as many able bodied members of society who have families or will inevitably have families…. both sides…. take them and line them up… then have them shoot each other…. who gets to raise that next generation and instill new values into THEM. WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam etc etc etc etc etc……. go back and look at the TOTAL numbers of deaths and ask why like with ww2 we are always pressured to remember the jewish victims… in my opinion every single soldier and every single member of the affected societies were victims……especially in the long run…..population control people…… ITS COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU……

    • I do completely agree with you. But until we find another inhabitable planet we need population control if we did not have are world would be absolutely full. we need to kill the mentaly challenged and the sick and the week anyone who doesn’t contribute for the better in society should die. they should not be hung or shot they should kill themselfs for the better of the human race they are a waste of human time caring for them. they are a waste of time feeding them when there are starving people all over the world and they are a waste of space. I know i sound like the worlds biggest douch bag but we need to start putting emotions aside and thinking about the greater good of human civilization. if it does not happen now then it will happen when the world becomes full.

  8. Amen. I am one well armed citizen with former military experience in explosivex and guerilla warfare who happens to be pungently disgusted at the self serving abuses of power perpetrated by the politicians paid to represent us but compelled to represent themselves instead. No I find that the NSA is using the lie of anti-terrorism to spy on people like myslef who love this country but hate our government. And when caught, by a hero like whistle blower Eric Snowden, they attack him instead of admit their egrgeious crime. Nevermind the the FBI’s heavy handed response to KYAnonymous, who exposed the Stuebenville rapists and their crimes who is now facing 10 years in jail when the two teenage rapists are only getting 1 to 2 years. The Fed is now protecting itself and the true criminals in this country by blacklisting the average American and the heros it produces. It is time for a revolt against our tyrannical government before it begins to rival that of colonial England all over again. I, for one have woekn up, never to sleep again, until this bloated pig who steals are taxes has its collective throat slashed to bleen out and pave the way for true americans, the oppressed, to rise up in place.

  9. I’m so sick of this government and the way its being run it doesn’t make sense we are not free there just using the people as puppets for there sick little game its time we took a stand all of us I’m tied of laying down I’m ready to take a stand I want my voice heard loud and clear along with everyone who feels the same its our time to rise its the peoples time to speak up and not those ignorant bastards I’ll do whatever it takes to have my voice heard

  10. I just an elderly American citizen. I was afforded the privilage of living in a free America & i want no less for our children, grandchildren& g’hrandchildren. I admin on a page The Wolves Among The Sheep on fb. I was getting ready to comment on a perticular post n a young boy said”Well ya’ll do something,im just a minor”! I was stunned by his comment. I assured him i certainly have no intention on passing down to his generation or those that follow a socialist communist muslim regime! I would rather die fighting than to sit bk & do nothing to stop this trash in Washington. It’s time to clean house & take out the garbage. I have been reminding my group about a planned march on Sept.9,2013 i think this will work what have we got to lose? Our page had a following of 85,010 people just this past week. We are growing. Im in! Lets roll!

    • I’m all in on the march if all possible I have some bullshit court crap I dont know how that’s going to go because I’m not taking the pre trail crap they offered so Im going to court to fight this felony there trying to put on me all over a cop finding oe little white round pill in my car I didn’t know was there I’m not a druggie he called it a lortard and stuck my ass in jail……the shit pisses me off it had to come out….MARCH I will I’ll do everything I can to be there just need more details please

  11. “They came home with their tails between their legs…” Hey ASSHOLE, I did not come home with my “tail between my legs” and neither did any of my Marine Corps buddies. You clearly do not understand the causes, effects, and results of the Vietnam War. The United States military was never defeated on the field of battle, you fucking dumass. You spout scheiße like a squirting raped goose on laxatives. Regarding wasting oxygen, you are at the top of the list. What are you, a disinformation officer for the CIA, or the Illumanati? Or, are you really so stupid? Yes, we should stand united against tyranny, but I don’t want to walk the walk with lying dirtbags. There must be honor in everything we do and casting dispersions on those who fought and died for this country is not very honorable. You have cast yourself out from those who would call you patriot. Sorry, folks but this guy has really pissed me off with his one lying comment.

    • Honey spoken like a true marine a true hero of this country I’m not the strongest are smartest female around but I’ll stand beside you and fight for this country and our freedom back anyday

    • At Ease, Blurb! Altho there’s no bio attached to his Post, if this guy is who I think he is, he’s a retired Marine LtCol with several combat tours in Nam, former Commanding Officer (who might have been a Mustang), is recognized by several courts as an Expert Witness in firearms and has a Masters degree in military history. I think you might want to check your backstop before commencing fire. I spent a lot of years saluting the man you just called an asshole and I don’t take kindly to hearing you run your mouth about a man I trusted my life to in The Corps. If you think you can counter any of the points he made, I suggest you read more about our war in Vietnam. I’ve learned more about it since returning than I knew while I was there (69-70-71) and I find his comments to be right on the money. I could even add a few myself. But this discussion isn’t about YOU, nor is it about Nam. It’s about the feasibility of the US citizens’ ability to defeat the US armed forces in an all-out protracted war. Don’t lose sight of your compass bearing just because you get distracted by the swamp, and make sure who your audience is before you run off beating your hairy chest. That crap might sound impressive to a bunch of sloppy civilians, but it sounds amateur and disrespectful among us retired Marines. ‘Rah?

    • Excellent man! It’s quite a relief to hear all this talk of securing a better future for our children! I for one, finally have woken up! If there are any or you know of, organizations that are trying to support or sponsor a march in AZ., I want to know about it so I can tell my fellow Native Americans about it when and where it will take place! You should be our leader in this revolt, sounds like you could actually pull it off with all that conviction glowing around all your past military experience. I’m a enrolled member of the Hopi/Navajo tribe, we, of course, have our own problems with the federal Government which is quite known for more than 237 years now! Now, It’s not just our past that has triggered so much adversity, but what’s currently involving all US citizens, rich or poor, white, black or red! It’s not our people in the sense that I’m only talking about Native Americans. I am reinvigorated to help push every single man and woman that pledged as a child in class to know you are free to do what ‘s in your heart what’s right for all mankinds future! The Native Americans will help in this too, we just need proper motivation and leadership, if not already self-evident to any planning or any already planned insurrection. There needs to be careful planning on a joint rebellion force, between all US citizens of all colors. If we can pull that little trick off of combing all true US non-conformist as allied forces this will happen! The US Government will have no other choice but to order the deaths of all non-conforming citizens, that action there will be their demise! The Current US soldier will no doubt have conflicts with this order trust me! If someone told me to kill my Family and I was the one holding the weapon, I wouldn’t think past a millisecond to turn the gun at my commander and pull the trigger!! Money is another issue for the newly appointed new enacted citizens, that too needs to be abolished, in a sense that a true workable economy system without currency needs to be in place or on the drawing board. If we all don’t stand up for our human rights, we will be stood down!!!!

  12. Sadly I have to agree with this article. And it’s all because of our current so-called president who glorifies himself, and refuses to listen to anyone but whom he picks! Peace Be Unto You All and GOD Bless! Jane.

    • The majority of the scumbags that work for the government do so out of loyalty to paycheck and pension. Don’t make the mistake of thinking that they will bite the hand that feeds them.

  13. Wow, I hope you’re right!
    Obama’s IzlamaNazi America is well-supplied. And his guillotines are in place.
    The new White House in the Ozarks is almost finished.

  14. There are plenty of us in az and ut awaiting the mass to stand. As a single soldier defeat will come fast as a nation a change will be made

  15. Just want to say, do some research but the American Military can not raise arms against the American Citizen. Now they can against illegal immigrants, but not actual citizens.

  16. You receive your information from what the constitution??? The laws that protect citizens from the government are being back doored and constantly attempts are made to by pass this piece of paper. If they push us to riot marshal law may be imposed per military law. That happens they can raise arms on us as well as obtain our food wealth water shelter and anything else we own. You do research or keep just saying to people who haven’t watched this at every step

  17. From what I gathered on this I agree that we the people could have a fighting chance… the government really underestimates the common man they don’t realize just what we could do. And now as far as corruption goes I think we could compare america with rome rome fell beacuse of its own corruption at the rate our incapable government is going we will fall in power and we would see dc burning and becomeing ruled by foreign powers if america is to survive the people must not allow pollitions democratic, republican ect be allowed to do as they please. Another question all of you should ask is just how much worth are we to our government do you think they would defend our nation with us if foreign powers were to invade they would run to there bunkers and wait it out. To me a true leader worth leading our once great nation would be a leader who actually listens to his or her people and not let power to corrupt to lead troops against any enemy without fear a leader who only thinks of the people and there country only then will a golden age of americabe

  18. The ability of America to defend itself from an inside attack is already very small. Even with all the police, military bases , and security possible, there weren’t able to stop major events, like 9/11 , The assassination of many presidents and representatives, the bombings of military and public buildings along the states. I think it’s safe to say, that even if we couldn’t have stopped those attacks, It would have been very easy for worst to happen. Think of the lives that could be lost if a single terrorist went to a major event like the election, or something as simple as the Super Bowl. Almost double the lives lost in any of the worlds biggest incidents, and all because the governments protection. The first words of the Declaration of Independence are “We the people of the United States of America”, give it a few more years under the tyranny that is the American government and not only will we face a threat to America. I believe all countries will be in danger. America is having a habit of losing its lives in pointless wars, what’s to say that they won’t attack the next super power of the world. They could enslave us all and what’s to stop them from doing it? In my honest opinion that for the safety of Americans everywhere, and our god-given rights as the people of planet earth, to defend and protect our rights by any means necessary, even if it means termination of the same government that made us strong in the first place. Dear Mr and Mrs Barack Obama and family, our founding fathers turn in their graves at the saying of your names.

  19. All someone has to do is grab a few buddys, some automatic weapons, and start off with taking out just a few policemen randomly everyday. Leave a message about what and why your doing it online and eventually the dominoes will fall. Im sick of talking about not wanting to get fucked anymore im gonna do something about it. Thats what makes someone a citizen of this great country…duty, and answering the call. GO AMERICA!!! FREEDOM WILL PREVAIL

    • A few policman a day is the last thing that should be done. The police are not the problem. The White house freeloaders are the problem. Take out the snakes head and the rest of his supporters and change will happen.

  20. Marshal law being imposed would require our military to go against their own families. An outside source would have to be let in to do that. How many American soldiers would turn on their families? How many would stand and watch another country do so? Few would even consider it an option. Marshal law is never going to be achieved unless they can take all of our abilities to fight away. My gun my bow and my knife are far from the only means I have for defense. I have knowledge on much more “harmless” things that can be created into productive means of defense

  21. “All someone has to do is grab a few buddys, some automatic weapons, and start off with taking out just a few policemen randomly everyday.”

    That usually leads to the electric chair or lethal injection. Just so you’ll know.

  22. I’ll take a shot at your quiz; Her are several reason why it may not be possible for the citizens of America to win an armed insurrection against the current olagarkey. 1. The north in Viet Nam was not just a rag tag bunch of peasant’s. The same way we backed and reinforced the south. China did the same thing for the north. 2. and all this before Smart bombs.Drones and all the modern surveillance 3. We don’t have tanks, grenade launchers, Air planes. and police trained at riot control with tear gas. Didn’t you watch the branch dividians get their heads handed to they on TV You were probably asleep then as you are now. If history has taught us anything, it is that we can concur this beast with a peaceful message’s Not all of America has been awakened yet, and it would be a terrible mistake to attempt to get our government back until we awaken all the people.
    NO INCUMBENT MOVEMENT please try this first before Violence !!

  23. Peaceful you say? Please peace has been the way we chose for years look at our downfall. The problem with America is y’all got pussified and are scared to stand and fight against authority. Over turning the government is needed. How can you expect criminals who “veto” their way thru to listen to a peaceful message. Shall we vote them out? For what another corrupt politician?? If you look at history battles are not about equipment nor training it’s about the fight. We have many people with “training” as you say. Hunters equivllant to sharp shooters. Sport or competition shooters simply as productive if not better than riot teams. And te rest of us with basic skills run police out. Your thoughts on the training authority receives is incorrect. And what does china backing the north have to do with anything? They were a split country far before and after each other. We are talking about taking back our rights and country from the criminals running it

  24. i am ready to fight to the death I feel it in my bones and would not be a wasted life, we must fight not type, the police get more brutal in their tactics everyday now they will taze you as soon as speak to you. Who do you think trained them to be that way? I am ready to go now, not tomorrow. I am ready are you?

  25. I think we should do it, I mean look at America today. Do you see our situation getting ANY better than it is?? NO it is just getting worse. And I think we could pull off another Civil War of sorts. I really do. Why don’t we?

  26. You say death row? If our nation wasn’t pussified as you are death row would be decided by who? An overturned government? What power would congress judges officers have? I ask these questions rhetorically of course considering the answer is simple. However with a nation willing to sit back and be walked on by the leaders we empower nothing will be accomplished. You fear death row? Well let me ask do you fear a concentration camp where you work and your wife and daughter are sexually abused ?? I do and I would not stand down to an armed force taking my rights away. Will you give up your constitution to avoid jail? I will not. I will stand as an American I have the right to defend my nation from terror foreign as well domestic. You see nothing worth fighting for? Taking a stand for? Well sir you are a sad excuse of an American. As I feel you are a waist for the soldiers who died to give rights to such a poor man.

  27. On a sufficiently abstract level, I don’t disagree with you. But there’s a difference between courage and suicide. There’s no point in fighting a war you’re going to lose. What you’re discussing may or may not become feasible at some point in the future. But if you embarked on that course of action right now, how many people would join you? You and your comrades would end up dead or in jail, and the System would go on as it always has. How many people have even heard of the kid mentioned in the link I posted?

  28. As went the American Indian, so shall we. They have no interest in taking your guns. They want you to get more. They want to divide us – liberal against conservative , democrat against republican , etc. They going to cause an economic collapse, then while we struggle to survive , brother will turn on brother using the arms we amassed. Once we do the majority of the damage to each other, they’ll come in an institute marshall law. We will not have the strength or power to fight them. They will then herd us into all the prisons they have built and start systematic executions and set up death camps.

  29. That’s what the powers that be did to the indigenous people (American Indians) of this country. They armed them and then they let them kill each other off and once they were fighting amongst themselves and scattered and broken , they rounded them up and put them on reservations in
    desolate places so no one sees them and they are irrelevant. They are poor and forever lost. Hilter did the same thing during the holocaust. They are setting the stage for this to happen to us. They are trying to divide us on stupid issues. They are letting us arm ourselves not to use against them but against each other. It will make their takeover easier. We have more in common with each other than we have with the corporatists. We can’t let them divide us. Sticking together -that’s the only way we have a chance! Those who
    don’t know history are doomed to repeat it!

  30. I am a very liberal person, but I still cannot stomach the fact that there seem to be so many people who just don’t care about our Constitutional rights. They forget all the blood that was shed to establish those rights, and they seem content to let a corrupt government regime undermine them at every all the time. I also get irritated at the government basically saying they need to be able to disregard our rights to protect us. I think it was Jefferson, but I’m not certain, who in his letters specifically addressed this topic. Essentially it is not something that should even be up for debate. And this is not targetted against the Obama administration specifically, as his is not the only administration to have instituted illegal acts against US citizens, or allowed them to occur by other government/military institutions.

    There are essentially two major doctrines when it comes to the time to wage guerilla warfare for the preservation of our rights. It could be initiated by a relatively small contigent, who does not have the support or a larger organization, and after things have started the fighters can hope to raise support an awareness. Or, the forces can wait until things get bad enough, and people wake up and are ready to take action. Che Guevara championed the former, and his writings on guerilla warfare in general are quite accurate, even today. I don’t necessarily support everything he stood for, but his hatred for America was somewhat justified, and this was long before the essential security state we live in today. I’m sure someone like him would have predicted as much.

    Basically, with the way things have been progressing in America, I cannot foresee our liberties being reinstated in full, rather things can only get worse. And regarding the 2nd amendment, so many people don’t even realize what it is for. Like you wrote, it is solely for the people to be able to rise up against an oppressive government. We don’t have the amendment just for kicks, or just for hunting or whatever. It has a definite purpose, and this was made extremely clear by our founders.

    In fact, I would go so far as to say that the government does not even have the right to tell people which types of weapons they can own. If the military has access to it, the public probably should as well, considering that would be in keeping with the intention of bearing arms in the first place. But of course we cannot have just anyone running around with certain weaponry, as it would be utter mayhem. But take this whole “assault rifle” debate, which is ridiculous…this should not even be occurring. Any weapon can be made to look like an “assault” or military weapon. They have freaking tactical .22′s for goodness sake. What makes a weapon an assault weapon, imo, is its fire mode. A fully automatic weapon, or maybe a burst fire weapon, is an “assault” weapon. Any semi-auto rifle should never be termed an assault rifle.

    But the people could still rise up and suppress their tyrannical government with semi-automatic weaponry. The main problem that I believe would be faced is recruitment. I just don’t think there are enough people in the US at the moment who care enough to rise up and restore the democratic form of government that was intended. It would be only a small contingent, and that just is not enough for such a massive task.

    Think of what the government has done just during peaceful protests. It has been said, and there is some evidence for this, that the government had plain-clothes agents who infiltrate such protests, like OWS, and they do things to shut down such displays. Essentially a protest is the only form of dissent available to a US citizen, and the truth is that they just don’t work. They don’t work because you are basically just asking the government to stop violating your rights. Why should they, when these people are corrupt? They are not afraid of the people, for the simple fact that they believe too many of them to be docile. They assume that there are only a small number of people who would attempt to take action, and of course they can handle such small numbers easily.

    So I guess my belief is that, whether or not an uprising in the name of liberty is needed at the moment, things must get exponentially worse before the masses will even CONSIDER taking military action against the government.

  31. The NWO is is proceeding as a locamotive headed downhill. Our leaders have tied our futures to the train, if not taken the stick in the engine well over 40 years ago.The elete, Alluminati or just plain power hungry sickos that have threw many years of dilligents.brought this linguring but sure downfall of
    America almost to hand. The sooner we unite, plan and coordinate the peoples take back of this great nation the better!

  32. If a revolt in America does occur, which, I believe, in time it will. I do not further believe that our military will unite 100% against fellow Americans. There will be a division of the military that will depart from our present “Commander in Chief” and side with the people. There are many many people in the military who would not fire a weapon against another American no matter what orders come down the line. There has never been a form of government in the history of the world that has lasted longer than 225 years. We are ripe and ready for a revolt, I only hope and pray it will be a bloodless revolt where as American will emerge as a free and independent nation.

  33. I’m tired of all the. Lies and. Corruption. In our government. Thay. Are. Braking. Laws and are totally out. Of. Control. Say the word I’ll stand. In. Arms

  34. one world government must be true only way for that to happen is if see the world for what it is and chose to usher in an era of progress for all not as a people but as a species a revolution of science, knowledge, power, control, well being it is the duty of those who see this problem to act on this problem

  35. I am also ready to fight but we must be smart they eavsdrop on anything and will strike before your ready the key is low tech hit and run and in case you havent noticed the police are our enemies they are militarized and ready to go. There is a reason they bought 2 billion rounds of ammo and its not for practice. I am also ready to fight to the death and am not a stupid person. We can and must we have no choice they dont listen and the only response you get s a cops baton or 10,000 volts. Cannot half ass it if your ready , you better be and make your piece with whomever that is when you are your most dangerous.

  36. I will fight the government if I have to.My ambition pushes me forward.There is a reason I am destined for greatness!And I shall create a land of Benevolence!I will create a land of talent and intellect and rid this world of all imbeciles!

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