Comments on: Forty Years in the Wilderness? http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/ Pan-secessionism against the empire Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:11:40 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Todd Alan Smith http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-2094 Todd Alan Smith Fri, 27 Nov 2009 05:12:19 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=1730#comment-2094 Like your thinking, and mostly agree, but suspect your plan is happening already, and much faster...I think many of the left/right , dem/rep in the US are understanding that even their own parties are failures...they just don't want to lose face and do so by slipping off to indep. or lib. or const. or conserv. or green party affiliations...which make equal little sense to them but is better in their minds than anarchy and/or communism...really...a lot of "industrialised" citizens are too well "trained" or "domesticated" to do anything but fall apart and die when the state collapses under its own obeseity...we just can't see it for the tv sets, pc's, and radios get in the way... Like your thinking, and mostly agree, but suspect your plan is happening already, and much faster…I think many of the left/right , dem/rep in the US are understanding that even their own parties are failures…they just don’t want to lose face and do so by slipping off to indep. or lib. or const. or conserv. or green party affiliations…which make equal little sense to them but is better in their minds than anarchy and/or communism…really…a lot of “industrialised” citizens are too well “trained” or “domesticated” to do anything but fall apart and die when the state collapses under its own obeseity…we just can’t see it for the tv sets, pc’s, and radios get in the way…

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]]> By: Jeremy http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-1682 Jeremy Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:22:59 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=1730#comment-1682 Great essay! I think this is a set of points around which we can start answering the question, "what is to be done?" The only nit I might pick in this essay is the dismissal of the statist Right. You're correct that, as rightists qua rightists, they're a declining ideological force. What you might not be seeing is the degree to which they provide an avenue for right wing populist buy-in into the liberal managerialist imperial establishment. After all, the Republican party is only "conserving" the status quo of 20 years ago from whatever the date is today. So essentially, the Republican party becomes the right wing of the center-left establishment (is it not already?). This is a danger and poses a challenge to your strategy that must be addressed, I should think. There is a sense in which we ALREADY have an intra-left battle, and we don't want to start it so much as redefine it. How exactly we deal with the establishment capture of the two party system is a question not answered yet to my satisfaction. Great essay! I think this is a set of points around which we can start answering the question, “what is to be done?”

The only nit I might pick in this essay is the dismissal of the statist Right. You’re correct that, as rightists qua rightists, they’re a declining ideological force. What you might not be seeing is the degree to which they provide an avenue for right wing populist buy-in into the liberal managerialist imperial establishment. After all, the Republican party is only “conserving” the status quo of 20 years ago from whatever the date is today.

So essentially, the Republican party becomes the right wing of the center-left establishment (is it not already?). This is a danger and poses a challenge to your strategy that must be addressed, I should think. There is a sense in which we ALREADY have an intra-left battle, and we don’t want to start it so much as redefine it. How exactly we deal with the establishment capture of the two party system is a question not answered yet to my satisfaction.

]]> By: Quagmire http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-1678 Quagmire Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:31:27 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=1730#comment-1678 Tremendous article. The only problem I have with this blog is that the author updates it too infrequently. Other than that, I find the worldview and content presented here fascinating: an unconventional anarchist who rejects cultlural marxism and victomology and derives influence from the libertarian right. When I first stumbled across this website, I found it eerie how closely the authors views mirrored my own. Keep up the good work. Tremendous article. The only problem I have with this blog is that the author updates it too infrequently. Other than that, I find the worldview and content presented here fascinating: an unconventional anarchist who rejects cultlural marxism and victomology and derives influence from the libertarian right. When I first stumbled across this website, I found it eerie how closely the authors views mirrored my own. Keep up the good work.

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]]> By: d.eris http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-1674 d.eris Sat, 25 Jul 2009 01:16:54 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=1730#comment-1674 Some really interesting points in there. Here's a piece on <a href="http://politeaparty.blogspot.com/2009/06/anarchism-and-duopoly-ideology.html" rel="nofollow">Anarchism and Duopoly Ideology</a>. Some really interesting points in there. Here’s a piece on Anarchism and Duopoly Ideology.

]]> By: Sean "Goblin" Aaberg http://attackthesystem.com/2009/07/forty-years-in-the-wilderness/comment-page-1/#comment-1673 Sean "Goblin" Aaberg Fri, 24 Jul 2009 18:26:08 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=1730#comment-1673 Fantastic piece & blog in general. I'm glad that this next-stage of anarchist thought is happening... I've had the same experiences of most anarchists being communists in disguise, tending to use a new universal genderlessness & "anti-racism" as their destabilization devices. I think that terms like anarchism & libertarianism are fairly dated & useless these days in that you have to go about redefining them, when they are already semi-obscure & what the general populace does know about these ideas isn't particularly useful for where we are today. One thing i took away from the Black Panthers was the idea of "self determination", self for them included their group identity as Black Americans. So even though they were inspired by Communism, they applied Communism to their own group, as a method of survival instead of as a "solution to the human problem". My only critique of this blog is perhaps that the essays are too long, it is a format that is good for print, but your average blog is better off as a short read. Fantastic piece & blog in general. I’m glad that this next-stage of anarchist thought is happening… I’ve had the same experiences of most anarchists being communists in disguise, tending to use a new universal genderlessness & “anti-racism” as their destabilization devices. I think that terms like anarchism & libertarianism are fairly dated & useless these days in that you have to go about redefining them, when they are already semi-obscure & what the general populace does know about these ideas isn’t particularly useful for where we are today. One thing i took away from the Black Panthers was the idea of “self determination”, self for them included their group identity as Black Americans. So even though they were inspired by Communism, they applied Communism to their own group, as a method of survival instead of as a “solution to the human problem”.

My only critique of this blog is perhaps that the essays are too long, it is a format that is good for print, but your average blog is better off as a short read.

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