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	<title>Comments on: Is Extremism in the Defense of Sodomy No Vice?</title>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 03:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Viewing such issues with detached objectivity is sinful; judging by their reactions (which range from passive-aggressive hostility to bed-wetting hysteria) it’s a secular equivalent of embarking some sort of Mephistophelean pact.&quot;

It&#039;s like a very Calvinistic version of original sin, where people are supposed to be overwhelmed with remorse simply for being alive in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Viewing such issues with detached objectivity is sinful; judging by their reactions (which range from passive-aggressive hostility to bed-wetting hysteria) it’s a secular equivalent of embarking some sort of Mephistophelean pact.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like a very Calvinistic version of original sin, where people are supposed to be overwhelmed with remorse simply for being alive in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4010</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Luke]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 19:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I don’t consider homosexuality, lesbianism, transexuality, etc. to be a political issues. It’s simply a private matter, just like vegetarianism, transcendental meditation, smoking, or breast augmentation. Private homophobia is no different than private agoraphobia.&quot;

Regrettably, amongst the self-righteous liberal bourgeoisie, this attitude is unacceptable. Viewing such issues with detached objectivity is sinful; judging by their reactions (which range from passive-aggressive hostility to bed-wetting hysteria) it&#039;s a secular equivalent of embarking some sort of Mephistophelean pact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t consider homosexuality, lesbianism, transexuality, etc. to be a political issues. It’s simply a private matter, just like vegetarianism, transcendental meditation, smoking, or breast augmentation. Private homophobia is no different than private agoraphobia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Regrettably, amongst the self-righteous liberal bourgeoisie, this attitude is unacceptable. Viewing such issues with detached objectivity is sinful; judging by their reactions (which range from passive-aggressive hostility to bed-wetting hysteria) it&#8217;s a secular equivalent of embarking some sort of Mephistophelean pact.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4009</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since these kinds of issues are one of the major sources of negative criticisms and/or personal attacks on myself, I&#039;ll make it clear what my actual views are.

The model I draw on for these kinds of social controversies is the Jeffersonian model of church/state separation. The historic religious conflicts in Western civilization were resolved only when the state was finally separated entirely, or almost entirely, from religious matters.

I think a similar approach to more contemporary controversies would be appropriate. Hence, I favor simply removing the state from race issues altogether. The state should not favor or oppress any race just as it should not favor or oppress any religion. Issues that involve public matters that are racially or religiously controversial should be handled by the principle of community standards. What that means is that a predominantly Christian community might have nativity scenes on public property during Christmas, while a Jewish or Muslim community would not. A conservative white community might celebrate Columbus Day or Confederate History Month, while a primarily black or American Indian community likely would not. A Mexican or Hispanic-American community might celebrate Cinco de Mayo while other ethnicities might not. In a political context, being white, black, brown, red, or yellow should be no different than being Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, or Buddhist.

The same with immigration. New York and San Francisco can be sanctuary cities, and Maricupa County can post a ring of Minutemen around the county line if they want.

I don&#039;t consider homosexuality, lesbianism, transexuality, etc. to be a political issues. It&#039;s simply a private matter, just like vegetarianism, transcendental meditation, smoking, or breast augmentation. Private homophobia is no different than private agoraphobia.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since these kinds of issues are one of the major sources of negative criticisms and/or personal attacks on myself, I&#8217;ll make it clear what my actual views are.</p>
<p>The model I draw on for these kinds of social controversies is the Jeffersonian model of church/state separation. The historic religious conflicts in Western civilization were resolved only when the state was finally separated entirely, or almost entirely, from religious matters.</p>
<p>I think a similar approach to more contemporary controversies would be appropriate. Hence, I favor simply removing the state from race issues altogether. The state should not favor or oppress any race just as it should not favor or oppress any religion. Issues that involve public matters that are racially or religiously controversial should be handled by the principle of community standards. What that means is that a predominantly Christian community might have nativity scenes on public property during Christmas, while a Jewish or Muslim community would not. A conservative white community might celebrate Columbus Day or Confederate History Month, while a primarily black or American Indian community likely would not. A Mexican or Hispanic-American community might celebrate Cinco de Mayo while other ethnicities might not. In a political context, being white, black, brown, red, or yellow should be no different than being Protestant, Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, or Buddhist.</p>
<p>The same with immigration. New York and San Francisco can be sanctuary cities, and Maricupa County can post a ring of Minutemen around the county line if they want.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider homosexuality, lesbianism, transexuality, etc. to be a political issues. It&#8217;s simply a private matter, just like vegetarianism, transcendental meditation, smoking, or breast augmentation. Private homophobia is no different than private agoraphobia.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4008</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, obviously you missed the point.

http://c4ss.org/content/4100#comment-8262]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, obviously you missed the point.</p>
<p><a href="http://c4ss.org/content/4100#comment-8262" rel="nofollow">http://c4ss.org/content/4100#comment-8262</a></p>
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		<title>By: vaguelyhumanoid</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vaguelyhumanoid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talking about &quot;a purge, if not an outright pogrom&quot; makes me really fucking uncomfortable.
Your rhetoric, pointless opposition to immigration and support for &quot;national-anarchism&quot; all have a certain third-positionist/racialist undercurrent that I find deeply unsettling.
Meet the new right, sadly not the same as the old right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about &#8220;a purge, if not an outright pogrom&#8221; makes me really fucking uncomfortable.<br />
Your rhetoric, pointless opposition to immigration and support for &#8220;national-anarchism&#8221; all have a certain third-positionist/racialist undercurrent that I find deeply unsettling.<br />
Meet the new right, sadly not the same as the old right.</p>
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		<title>By: Forty Years in the Wilderness? &#124; The Occidental Quarterly</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4006</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Forty Years in the Wilderness? &#124; The Occidental Quarterly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] friends within the anarchist milieu, and many bitter enemies as well. In a recent and highly controversial essay, I argued for a “revolution within anarchism.” What I was calling for is the future advent of [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] friends within the anarchist milieu, and many bitter enemies as well. In a recent and highly controversial essay, I argued for a “revolution within anarchism.” What I was calling for is the future advent of [...] </p>
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		<title>By: agalnoraferon</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[agalnoraferon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When they are hounding you for being a &quot;fascist&quot; for advocating individual liberty it simply shows how ignorant of anarchism they really are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When they are hounding you for being a &#8220;fascist&#8221; for advocating individual liberty it simply shows how ignorant of anarchism they really are.</p>
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		<title>By: Smithstienberger</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4004</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Smithstienberger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have yet to meet a self professed anarchist that didn&#039;t claim some sort of Native American heritage, usually Cherokee. Do I believe the author to be an anti-semite? No, he just doesn&#039;t  agree with Israel and US foreign policy, but if push came to publically he&#039;s support them. In all reality the author might as well be a Jew since they seem to be his biggest influence and a driving force in the breakdown of Western Civilization.
The biggest problem I have is the constant use of large words to describe the anarchists problem with the world around them. The real fact of the matter is the problem is &quot;them&quot;. They are usually maladjusted discontent that they blame &quot;whitey&quot; for their own shortcomings. I have yet to see an anarchist try to break down any other system but white. This whole article could be some up a few words which are, &quot;help, I hate what I see in the mirror&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to meet a self professed anarchist that didn&#8217;t claim some sort of Native American heritage, usually Cherokee. Do I believe the author to be an anti-semite? No, he just doesn&#8217;t  agree with Israel and US foreign policy, but if push came to publically he&#8217;s support them. In all reality the author might as well be a Jew since they seem to be his biggest influence and a driving force in the breakdown of Western Civilization.<br />
The biggest problem I have is the constant use of large words to describe the anarchists problem with the world around them. The real fact of the matter is the problem is &#8220;them&#8221;. They are usually maladjusted discontent that they blame &#8220;whitey&#8221; for their own shortcomings. I have yet to see an anarchist try to break down any other system but white. This whole article could be some up a few words which are, &#8220;help, I hate what I see in the mirror&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Attack the System &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Forty Years in the Wilderness?</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Attack the System &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Forty Years in the Wilderness?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 16:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] friends within the anarchist milieu, and many bitter enemies as well. In a recent and highly controversial essay, I argued for a &#8220;revolution within anarchism.&#8221; What I was calling for is the future [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] friends within the anarchist milieu, and many bitter enemies as well. In a recent and highly controversial essay, I argued for a &#8220;revolution within anarchism.&#8221; What I was calling for is the future [...] </p>
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		<title>By: Social Memory Complex &#187; On the Preston Affair</title>
		<link>http://attackthesystem.com/2009/05/20/is-extremism-in-the-defense-of-sodomy-no-vice/#comment-4002</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Social Memory Complex &#187; On the Preston Affair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] coherent, integrated statement on the conversation surrounding Keith Preston&#8217;s recent essay, Is Extremism in Defense of Sodomy No Vice?. The delay in consolidating my thoughts into an &#8220;official&#8221; response has been fortunate; [...] ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] coherent, integrated statement on the conversation surrounding Keith Preston&#8217;s recent essay, Is Extremism in Defense of Sodomy No Vice?. The delay in consolidating my thoughts into an &#8220;official&#8221; response has been fortunate; [...] </p>
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