Comments on: The Second Vermont Republic, the League of the South and the Southern Poverty Law Center http://attackthesystem.com/2008/07/08/the-second-vermont-republic-the-league-of-the-south-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center/ Pan-Anarchism Against the State, Pan-Secessionism Against the Empire Wed, 23 May 2012 23:30:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Keith Preston http://attackthesystem.com/2008/07/08/the-second-vermont-republic-the-league-of-the-south-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center/#comment-3866 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:41:48 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=142#comment-3866 Alan,

Some of your stuff seemed to be forwarded from other lists and showed up as spam, but I think I retrieved them all. Let me know if any other comments are missing. Thank you for your participation.

Keith

]]> By: Alan http://attackthesystem.com/2008/07/08/the-second-vermont-republic-the-league-of-the-south-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center/#comment-3865 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:02:32 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=142#comment-3865 Where are my comments going? is this list censored?

]]> By: Alan http://attackthesystem.com/2008/07/08/the-second-vermont-republic-the-league-of-the-south-and-the-southern-poverty-law-center/#comment-3864 Thu, 10 Jul 2008 02:01:07 +0000 http://attackthesystem.com/?p=142#comment-3864 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyDistricts_USA/
Most and perhaps all secessionist movements need to reduce their territorial claims and this certainly includes the LOS. They need to claim only a small contiguous area that avoids the big cities and probably the communities of color. SVR will probably have to reduce their territory as well, and Cascadia certainly must abandon it’s claims on Idaho and Montana.
There just aren’t enough secessionists to build majorities in whole states and regions like that. Ideology is OT but territoy is certainly not and both LOS and Cascadian territorial claims are hugely excessive. Secessionists without excessive territorial claims include Christian Exodus, Free Town Project, and Liberty Districts.
Soverign entities need to be organized exclusively around POLITICAL lines, never cultural, ethnic or racial, though religion is political. Though some economic lines may be necessary such as avoiding getting landlocked and thus blockaded.
-Alan

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http://vermontrepublic.org/to_the_league_of_the_south_from_vermont_with_love

Comments anyone? I’m particulary curious as to what LOS members would say in response to this.

While I’m inclined to think Naylor may be overstepping a bit, as matters of ideology and moral philosophy are for specific secession movements to decide among themselves, the points he raises are valid. The South has not only a huge black population, but also Hispanics and the standard cosmopolitan atmosphere of large cities can be found in southern metro areas as well. This will have to be considered by any viable Southern secession movement.

I certainly don’t think a unified southern secession under confederate ideology/symbolism is workable. A more viable plan might be dissolution of southern states into regional federations of communities organized along particular ethnic, racial, religious, cultural, political and economic lines.

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